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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Nexus18 said:
But do you not see the point I am making? :cry:

As per nvidias very own words, there are 3 new features to dlss which form dlss v3, reflex, super resolution and frame generation, 40xx gets all 3, turing and ampere gets 2 of the 3 :cry: At the very least 1 of those features is new to dlss for turing and ampere owners i.e. reflex :D
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The point you're making-'new', would require 2.0 (like NV do with everything else to be in the title to be a valid point), so I sympathise with @Murphy in more ways than one.:p

Reflex was an RTX on feature, NV are saying it's a new DLSS 3.0 feature.

If that's all you're saying fair enough.

If you're saying Reflex is 'new' then NV gotcha again.
 
Gibbo said:
October 12th, stock on shelf as well, limited quantities. We will then take back orders but me monitoring closely to avoid anyone waiting months.




Website won't display prices plus with an unknown exchange rate at play and on such an expensive item we will wait until it is time to start taking orders. Prices will vary from £1679 upwards, top level OC cards will be around £1899 and watercooled parts more.
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"unknown exchange rate at play " does that mean the OCUK £200 extra unknown exchange rate ply :cry:
 
Just had a conversation with a mate on Discord.

I don't think Nvidia will see any sales slowdowns with these, 5000 series will be even more expensive and probably use even more power.
 
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TNA said:
Don’t know. Not enough info apparently, what am I supposed to base my decision on? :p

On a serious note, will wait to see what AMD have to offer. If it is good then I will go AMD, if not will wait and see for a deal that comes around summer time which some games I am interested come out.

The 3080 12GB brand new with Spider-Man for £699 looks somewhat appealing as I can sell my 3070 and the game, plus cashback I would get would mean £250 or less for the upgrade. Which ain’t bad as would be getting 40% or more performance plus 50% extra vram and brand new 3 year warranty. But then if AMD surprise us with a good deal I would rather go AMD.
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yes and then when the cards come out the 3070 prices will tank - and the 3080 12gb will run games very well and the extra ram will help for longer than 3070. Until next year you're not getting the 4000 series for under 1000 pounds all the while the 3070 price drops more and more . And then you've got the potential scalpers, Im thinking the same.
 
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opethdisciple said:
What we need is some better games to drop not more hardware to run the current average buggy crap they are delivering faster.
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Plenty of good stuff outside of the usual "AAA" slop. The game I'm looking forward to more than any other is Persona 5 Royal. Let's see if I'll need RTX 4000 to play that...

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Aretak said:
Plenty of good stuff outside of the usual "AAA" slop. The game I'm looking forward to more than any other is Persona 5 Royal. Let's see if I'll need RTX 4000 to play that...

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I recently started playing the Yakuza series. Yakuza 0 to be precise.

All I meant was a lot of the top AAA games that we get a broken on launch and or end up being underwhelming.

Instead of focusing so much on hardware innovation we need more software innovation to get more out of what we have.
 
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VortexA1 said:
yes and then when the cards come out the 3070 prices will tank - and the 3080 12gb will run games very well and the extra ram will help for longer than 3070. Until next year you're not getting the 4000 series for under 1000 pounds all the while the 3070 price drops more and more . And then you've got the potential scalpers, Im thinking the same.
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It’s a tough one though. AMD could bring it this time around. I just think even if they do they will charge for it and I do not fancy paying £800 or more for a GPU which is what they will be, especially if our currency keeps on tanking which it might as the fed keep upping interest rates and the boe lag at following which makes it worse.
 
opethdisciple said:
I recently started playing the Yakuza series. Yakuza 0 to be precise.
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Well have fun, they're great (and also run great on PC). I'm waiting for the latest one (Like a Dragon) to drop in price a bit. Judgment and its sequel also got released on PC finally the other day. They're basically Yakuza games with a different setup.
 
tommybhoy said:
The point you're making-'new', would require 2.0 (like NV do with everything else to be in the title to be a valid point), so I sympathise with @Murphy in more ways than one.:p

Reflex was an RTX on feature, NV are saying it's a new DLSS 3.0 feature.

If that's all you're saying fair enough.

If you're saying Reflex is 'new' then NV gotcha again.
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And that's is all I am saying i.e. debunking this :p

Not new, they've been a part of DLSS 2 since day 1.
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It is added now as apart of dlss v3, which ampere and turing can also benefit from.
 
Nexus18 said:
DLSS 3 is made up of 3 subset of features:
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Nope, as much as Nvidia marketing want you to believe that it's not. I assume when you say "Super Resolution" you're referring either to Super Sampling or Dynamic Super Resolution, let's go with the former as that's what the SS part stands for and the later isn't even part of DLSS.

No one is disputing what features make up DLSS 3, in fact you said "Apparently DLSS 3 will work on RTX gpus, just not all of the features which make up DLSS now i.e. frame generation:" and i said "So essentially everything that makes DLSS 3, DLSS 3." to whit you relied saying "Whilst true with the omission of frame generation, we are getting 2/3 new additions from v3 so to say we aren't getting dlss 3 at all isn't quite 100% correct" (My emphasis) so as you can see you were the one who initially claim DLSS 3 is comprised of three new features.

What's being disputed is that original claim of yours, that DLSS 3 consists of three new features, but i suspect you know that already as you brought it up often enough up until this post where you've seemingly tried to pivot away from that new claim, i assume because you now realise DLSS 3 is essentially one new feature but you find it difficult to admit to that.
Nexus18 said:
But do you not see the point I am making?

As per nvidias very own words, there are 3 new features to dlss which form dlss v3, reflex, super resolution and frame generation, 40xx gets all 3, turing and ampere gets 2 of the 3 At the very least 1 of those features is new to dlss for turing and ampere owners i.e. reflex
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No, like i said you've been taken in by Nvidia marketing, there's nothing wrong with that as marketing is sometimes intentionally misleading (much like how the 4080 12GB is seemingly an attempt to mislead customers). There's only one 'new' feature that goes into making DLSS 3, frame generation. Frame generation may well require reflex and 'super resolution' but they are not 'new' features.
 
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