NVIDIA 4000 Series

[Joxeon]

I'd rather be without DLSS 3 if having it enabled brings about vsync-like mouse movement latency elastics!

Enjoy your 24 fps then on a £1700 card.

 

[Murphy]

And just to clarify....

Lets just agree to disagree...

 

[mrk]

Enjoy your 24 fps then on a £1700 card.

That makes no sense, I'd just be using DLSS2 and benefit from the fps uplift that DLSS which we already have and something that will still be improved as time goes on, on my 3080 Ti.

 

[gpuerrilla]

3080Ti's are becoming popular I hear!

 

[Calin Banc]

Exqueeze me! I loathe Vsyn, even though my current GPU can maintain 120+fps on a 144Hz display setting in most games, the sponge effect introduced by vsync even at these high frames is just terrible.

This is why Gsync ultimate/vrrr comes into its own.

I'd rather be without DLSS 3 if having it enabled brings about vsync-like mouse movement latency elastics!

Is not for everyone, but I'm fine with how v-sync works in current games and if the performance is truly there... I'm in. In theory, 'cause at those prices I'm very much out!

 

[LtMatt]

3080Ti's are becoming popular I hear!

I’m waiting to see what RDNA3 offers.

Proceeds to buy a 3080 TI.

 

[Neutral]

a full fat 4080 will be £1269 lol. And that is the FE

£949 for the crippled version

Asus strix knows I want it. The psu says no, I'll have to wait for atx v3.0

 

[gpuerrilla]

Proceeds to buy a 3080 TI.

I thought 10GB was all the vram you need?

 

[Raiden85]

If only all the big reviewers sent their review cards back and told Nvidia where to shove it at the current prices.

 

[Purgatory]

If only all the big reviewers sent their review cards back and told Nvidia where to shove it at the current prices.

The reviewers are part of the problem and the "reviewers" love freeloading off these companies and getting free hardware and money in their back pockets. Even LTT admitted to being part of the problem with their 3090ti review as LTT doesn't give a damn about free hardware.

Like I said only the freeloaders and paid shills will be playing Nvidia is god and all the blaa blaa

 

[Grim5]

 

[Purgatory]

EDIT: Watch till the end .

 

[Murphy]

If only all the big reviewers sent their review cards back and told Nvidia where to shove it at the current prices.

My guess is most big reviewers will say how it's expensive but look at the performance not realising that price/performance has basically remained stagnate for the last 5+ years and won't even consider that your average American Jo would have to work for more than a week to be able to afford what they've been given for free.

 

[Grim5]

The hilarious part of RTX4000 is that the only card that is good value is the top of the line 4090, the other models are just terrible until they get price cuts

Thanks nvidia for increasing the 2nd hand value of my 3090

 

[gpuerrilla]

/jay

Brass neck that guy.

 

[Raiden85]

Thanks nvidia for increasing the 2nd hand value of my 3090

Same, always a silver lining

 

[Mr Jack]

Latency remains to be tested, but, if it is about the same as v-sync, probably a lot won't care that much if it brings up the frame rate.

There shouldn't be any increase in latency, since it should only be inserting extra frames between existing ones: before you had input every frame now you have input every two, but in both cases the time between input polls is 25ms (or whatever). But I also don't see how that's ever going to improve the experience. A fraction smoother but at the cost of artefacts just seems like it's a trade-off that is rarely going to improve the experience. The upscaling DLSS seems a much better prospect.

 

[gpuerrilla]

To all my Turing gamer friends, It's safe to upgrade now

 

[TOW]

So the 4080 12gb is essentially a 4070 but they knew they couldn't possibly try and sell a 4070 for $900 without being **** on? So by pretending it's a 4080 they think it's a-ok.

Not quite... the 4080 12gb is a 4060, the 4080 16gb is a 4070 and the 4090 is a 4080... the real big chip, the 4090ti will be what the 4090/titan would have been.

Every SKU has been rebadged one level up.

At least the 4090ti will be a proper performance jump from the 4090 haha.

 

[Murphy]

Anyone expecting future price cuts may want to rethink that...

During the Q&A session, Jensen Huang was asked about GPU prices. His response was very telling.
“Moore’s Law is dead. […] A 12-inch wafer is a lot more expensive today. The idea that the chip is going to go down in price is a story of the past,” said Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang in a response to PC World’s Gordon Ung.

While he's not wrong he's being extremely disingenuous.

CSET: Calculation of foundry sale price per chip in 2020 by node

	16/12nm	10nm	7nm	5nm
Mass production year and quarter	2015 Q3	2017 Q2	2018 Q3	2020 Q
Capital investment per wafer processed per year	$11,220	$13,169	$14,267	$16,746
Capital consumed per wafer processed in 2020	$993	$1,494	$2,330	$4,235
Other costs and markup per wafer	$2,990	$4,498	$7,016	$12,753
Foundry sale price per wafer	$3,984	$5,992	$9,346	$16,988
Foundry sale price per chip	$331	$274	$233	$238

(Source)

Yea a 12-inch wafer is a lot more expensive today and the chips you're getting from them is more expensive but 20 series chips were estimated to cost almost a $100 more than 7-5nm so unless TSMC's 4nm chips are costing $500 and wafers now cost $32k he's trying to pull the wool over customers eyes.