NVIDIA 4000 Series

Tired9 · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:26

GPU's should start coming with mains adapters and power supply built in.

cHk4 · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:28

Monkey Puzzle said:
UM MEST?

No mate, I went for the Audio 64 u12t.

Greebo · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:29

Gypsum Fantastic said:
Yeah, I'm somewhat confused by this too. It's the equivalent of running a 3090 FE off one PCIe cable. Perhaps someone more up on power loads can explain how that works.

Corsair PSUs (the high power ones on their list) can supply more than 300W per 8 pin pci-e connector so it only needs 2 slots.

Monkey Puzzle · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:32

cHk4 said:
No mate, I went for the Audio 64 u12t.

Nice. Bet it sounds good!

Monkey Puzzle · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:36

Gypsum Fantastic said:
Yeah, I'm somewhat confused by this too. It's the equivalent of running a 3090 FE off one PCIe cable. Perhaps someone more up on power loads can explain how that works.

I think the power limitation of 150w is probably due to the wire gauge of the 8 pin cables rather than what the psu can supply to the 12v rail on the gpu cables, whereas the new 16 pin has thicker gauge cables to handle the 600w/hugher current

Kelt · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:43

Johnnius said:
Probably a silly question but will all the 4090s come with the pcie adapter?

I have an evga 1200W P2 and no way am I swapping already.

Also, do we know yet which cards have the full 600W available if needed?

I have my eye on the msi Suprim X as I have the 3090 and really like how it performs, a pretty damn cool and quiet card.

Yes.

Jay-G25 · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:46

Monkey Puzzle said:
There'll be import duty and carrier handling charge on the ek block as well

No that's all handled by EK or at least it has been the last few times i have ordered from them

Joxeon · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:47

Anyone planning to shunt mod the 4090 for that sweet 1kw performance?.

Monkey Puzzle · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:48

cainer said:
These things are huge, the way things are going it won't be long before your whole PC slots inside your graphics card

Only a madman would put a pc in a heatsink!

uscool · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:48

Greebo said:
Corsair PSUs (the high power ones on their list) can supply more than 300W per 8 pin pci-e connector so it only needs 2 slots.

I thought each 8 pin PCIe is max 150w

So 4 X 8pin PCIe would be 600w ?

Monkey Puzzle · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:53

Jay-G25 said:
No that's all handled by EK or at least it has been the last few times i have ordered from them

Do you mean they add it at checkout, or that it's included in the listed price on their site?

NiteSurfer · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:55

DanF said:
"According to the ONS, in 2021 the average UK salary was £38,131 for a full-time role"
~£3,178 monthly

so how much do you need to live on determines how many 4090's you can buy per month

LOL, but the trouble with all these percentage figures is that we all know this country so divided.

On a smaller scale, you could say 4 people earn £30k per year, but if you put one rich individual shareholder in that worth say £120k a year,
Then the average is £48k per year. Which is why I think Uk salary averages are total horse crap.

brostradamus · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:56

uscool said:
I thought each 8 pin PCIe is max 150w

So 4 X 8pin PCIe would be 600w ?

thats the official spec... but the corsair guy was suggesting that good psus are anyhow overspecced, so the unofficial ampacity is believed to be 300w

Jay-G25 · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:56

uscool said:
I thought each 8 pin PCIe is max 150w

So 4 X 8pin PCIe would be 600w ?

Will depend what AWG the wire is but much more than 150w normally , with my Strix on a 520W bios i have seen each 8pin pci pull around 175w.

srekal34 · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:57

uscool said:
I thought each 8 pin PCIe is max 150w

So 4 X 8pin PCIe would be 600w ?

Socket on psu side is not pcie, it only looks like pcie. It has a capacity of 366w per socket

Jay-G25 · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:58

Monkey Puzzle said:
Do you mean they add it at checkout, or that it's included in the listed price on their site?

Included in the price on the site , you need to add delivery to that which is done at checkout but never been hit with an import charge when ordering from their site

uscool · 7 Oct 2022 at 18:59

Good to know , my current PSU is the Corsair HX1000i

NiteSurfer · 7 Oct 2022 at 19:09

Can't believe the 4090ti is rumoured at 800W TDP and needing two 12 PCIe 12+4pin modular connectors, like some rumoured sites were suggesting. How many 4 X 8pin PCIe would that need! 5-6?
No doubt the 50 series would though.

Yaayuh! · 7 Oct 2022 at 19:12

NiteSurfer said:
LOL, but the trouble with all these percentage figures is that we all know this country so divided.

On a smaller scale, you could say 4 people earn £30k per year, but if you put one rich individual shareholder in that worth say £120k a year,
Then the average is £48k per year. Which is why I think Uk salary averages are total horse crap.

ONS uses Mean average, which is pretty useless.
Really it’s about £30k IIRC.

Mike 702 · 7 Oct 2022 at 19:16

Forget it