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NVIDIA 4000 Series
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Probably because the pound is being pounded in the rectum.
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yes,they can't ask these prices at this point anymore.
unless they intentionally limit 4000 series (specially 4080-4070) stock for another 6 months or so so they can sell remaining 3000 series as full MSRP.
it will depend on AMD's new cards too.
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This guy already has an oled. But I agree about upgrading other forms of their setup. Imo if you already have a 3080 or 3090, but don't use an oled, id recommend an LG or Alienware oled as the next graphical upgrade over the 4090.
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this wait is hell and iv that bad feeling im gonna miss out lol but from what i have seen from the reviews it makes the most sense to me to go for the 4090, as i have a 85 samsung qn800 8k tv which i will use for single player games like cyberpunk and the new uncharted coming this month for pc, and then for my competitive gaming for cod and pubg i have the samsung g9 5120x1440 240hz monitor and the 4090 looks like it comes into a league of its own at these kinda resolutions
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Anyone not got a minimum FALD LED / miniled / oled screen or monitor should be buying of of those first before even thinking about a 4090. Yeah, with a 4090 you might have a lot of frames but all of those frames will look like garbage without one of those lol.
While my computer monitor isn't one of those I absolutely love plugging my comp into my TV, I've got a 55" C1 LG thing that is stunning and it's going to be so nice being able to do 4k on that at 60 + FPS.
That fan wobble is pretty noticeable here - https://youtu.be/TKmvFp12YKU?t=451
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Desktop 32" 1440p Monitor for day to day stuff but my main gaming screen is my 65" LG C9, Elite and SC look amazing with the black blacks. For shooters i mainly use the desktop monitor for now but I have a lapboard and im looking forward to being able to drive the 4k oled screen at the 120hz it can run.
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you defo fall into the use case where a 4090 would make sense
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Out of interest why did you buy a 8k tv? there is very little use for them right now, with no media to consume.
Before media is available then i don't really see the point. Until 4k content was available I held off on it.
TBH the 8k demos ive seen are a marginal improvement unless your sat with your face on the screen.
They dropped it because they didn't want people like me that use them for work to do that again and get cheap titans. It's not a waste of time at all if you know how to use NVLINK and some games still support it. So the only reason it was dropped was because they want us all now to buy the Quadro class cards A series as they are known now, they are pushing NVLINK like crazy still for pro work, they just don't want people grabbing cheap last gen to use NVLINK on.. Don't be fooled by Nvidia NVLINK is actually great and even micro stutter doesn't exist anymore with it as it is so fast now.
So basically the minute it worked as people wanted it to work they removed it and learned from 3090s last gen they ended up in dual workstations and pros were not buying A series.
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It's so limited Australia is getting a fat Zero of them Not that I'm going to get one of these anyway, but I was wondering if there was an FE vendor here. That's a 'nope' then!
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This was from other day..
2pm though I did manage to put an order in somewhere a few hours ago for a Palit Gamerock
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Does anyone know when FE cards go live on nvidia website?
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basically a deal came up for the tv which put it in the same bracket as what the top end 4k tvs i was looking at was gonna cost so it was a no brainer, i know i have that bit of future proofing since it supports 8k but also allows me to game in 4k at 120hz, the screen size i got it in also is in the size range where you can notice a difference as i got the 85 inch model, going 8k in any less than 75 i dont think would be worth it, 8k gaming i knew would eventually become a thing also so i bought it this year knowing the 4000 series was coming though i didnt forsee the level of fps we are getting i thought it might have been lower than that which again i was ok with since it can only do 8k at 60
What people also have not realised yet is you need a full system rebuild now to get the 45-50% increase that is the same as the jump from 20 series to 30 series and only way to get a benefit from it is also to get a 4k fast refresh monitor, basically a whole new system to use it to its full potential. Anyone on a slower older cpu and platform it's basically a waste. Also no DP 2.0 no SLI/NVLINK for pros.
The 4090 looks like a what the real 4080 should have been by now but of course nvidia will not give us that as a 4080.
Look at it this way 2080ti to 3090 last time was again a 45-50% improvement depending on game but they gave us 24GB not 11GB and gave us the new gen NVLINK used on the pro cards too for an extra £200..
Now Nvidia has given us the same 24GB, no NVLINK but added frame generation and DLSS 3 that could have easily been added to previous gen but of course they play they can't, like they did in past with other gameworks features that were proven to be locked out by drivers only and other RTX features like RTX voice remember that scam ? Later it was hacked to work on none RTX cards and proven to work as it should.
Now 4090 is basically £1700 that's £300 more than the 3090 MSRP on release with really same performance jump as the 2080ti to 3090 for more money and same amount of VRAM and less pro features for a "Titan class card as he called the 90 class", no NVLINK and no Titan drivers still.
The 4090 should have been the 4080 this time or the 4080ti at most and the real 4090 should have had at least 36GB to 48GB VRAM not 24GB again and no NVLINK so you can't pool VRAM and cuda cores for pro work.
The hype train has taken off to the moon and tomorrow they will all be sold out even the £2.4K ones currently.. People laughed at the 3090 for £1400 ($1500) and 3090ti at £1850 ($2000) at the time but now £1700 is worth it for less
and that's just the FE price that will be unicorn poop and AIBS soon £2.5K+ geeze really. They have lost the plot really, 5090 will be £3k AIBs next time to start at and over for the good ones, but the FE MSRP will be £2000-£2250 at this rate. No thanks will be buying the A series pro cards from now on when they fire sell them at end of each gen, that way I get pro features for pro money and not a gaming card disguised as a pro card now with less pro features than previous gen. Meeh the worlds gone mad really and people will realise this once the FOMO wears off or they stick the 4090 in their current build and realise real world gains with their older setup is not worth it unless they spend thousands more on a new platform and 4k monitor.
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What people also have not realised yet is you need a full system rebuild now to get the 45-50% increase that is the same as the jump from 20 series to 30 series and only way to get a benefit from it is also to get a 4k fast refresh monitor, basically a whole new system to use it to its full potential. Anyone on a slower older cpu and platform it's basically a waste. Also no DP 2.0 no SLI/NVLINK for pros.
The 4090 looks like a what the real 4080 should have been by now but of course nvidia will not give us that as a 4080.
Look at it this way 2080ti to 3090 last time was again a 45-50% improvement depending on game but they gave us 24GB not 11GB and gave us the new gen NVLINK used on the pro cards too for an extra £200..
Now Nvidia has given us the same 24GB, no NVLINK but added frame generation and DLSS 3 that could have easily been added to previous gen but of course they play they can't, like they did in past with other gameworks features that were proven to be locked out by drivers only and other RTX features like RTX voice remember that scam ? Later it was hacked to work on none RTX cards and proven to work as it should.
Now 4090 is basically £1700 that's £300 more than the 3090 MSRP on release with really same performance jump as the 2080ti to 3090 for more money and same amount of VRAM and less pro features for a "Titan class card as he called the 90 class", no NVLINK and no Titan drivers still.
The 4090 should have been the 4080 this time or the 4080ti at most and the real 4090 should have had at least 36GB to 48GB VRAM not 24GB again and no NVLINK so you can't pool VRAM and cuda cores for pro work.
The hype train has taken off to the moon and tomorrow they will all be sold out even the £2.4K ones currently.. People laughed at the 3090 for £1400 ($1500) and 3090ti at £1850 ($2000) at the time but now £1700 is worth it for less
I think everyone knows now that the 4090 is a rebadged 4080.
We have space for 2x new cards near the top end... could be released as a ti with the slightly cut off chip and they'd have space to bring back the Titan name if they wanna re-enable some features, perhaps.
The "real" 4090 (ti/titan) is going to have 48gb.
But... even while I like excess... why on earth does anyone need 48gb? Even these 8k tests don't appear to be using that kinda memory...
If we were to ignore the re-badging... a $100 increase from 3090 to 4090 over 2 years... for what amounts to a very good and respectable performance increase... that's really not bad... it's technically a price drop. Inflation has been insane the last 2 years alone. Then when you take into account the massive increase in component manufacturing costs, supply chain shortages, etc etc... tier to tier jump doesn't look bad at face value.
... but then you realise it's actually a *80 series chip & they bumped the price from $699 to $1,599... a massive 129% increase... eek
... still buying 6 of them
Forget the 3000 series deals that they advertise, a 2060 during the sale for £212 is a solid esport deal, better performance for the price than a 3050
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SLi has been dead for years. The past hoorah was the GTX 600 series where two 660GTX took out a single 680 and the 690 and TITAN Z were the last of dual GPU cards from Nvidia.
I had 480 GTX SLi and thought it sucked balls. Smoother looking frames from a single GPU.
I had 480 GTX SLi and thought it sucked balls. Smoother looking frames from a single GPU.