NVIDIA 4000 Series

JediFragger · 12 Oct 2022 at 07:34

Grim5 said:
Reality: people are queuing 8 hours ahead of the launch outside micro centre

AMD can only dreaaaaaaaam of such queues

Gypsum Fantastic · 12 Oct 2022 at 07:34

Grim5 said:
Oc uk gamers: nah too rich for me, too expensive

Reality: people are queuing 8 hours ahead of the launch outside micro centres

They're predicting a shortage that will never be. This ain't 2020, yer muppets.

labbby · 12 Oct 2022 at 07:38

Oh come on stop using pics that relate to something else.

That was the Intel arc release day

K1LLER HORNET · 12 Oct 2022 at 07:45

humbug said:
I don't think Linus has any morality left, this is the guy who complained about "Disloyalty" from his own customers because they weren't satisfied with a 'Trust me bro' warranty on his products.

I mean, he's literally gas lighting his own customers there, what do you call people who in an abusive relationship do that to their other half?

I unsubbed from him long ago.
Can't stand his clickbait, childish and stupid video thumbnails one bit.
I don't wanna see your moronic face all contorted and looking more stupid than it usually does.

XeNoNF50 · 12 Oct 2022 at 07:47

Grim5 said:
Oc uk gamers: nah too rich for me, too expensive

Reality: people are queuing 8 hours ahead of the launch outside micro centres

Tbf they're paying for it in USD

Gypsum Fantastic · 12 Oct 2022 at 07:52

Fascinating that almost no retailers willing to put prices up on the site, even now on release day. It's like they're waiting to see what others do. Like a Mexican standoff. I want to buy from OC ideally, but will be looking around later today. Would really help if retailers started showing final pricing before 2pm.

Captain · 12 Oct 2022 at 07:55

Gypsum Fantastic said:
Fascinating that almost no retailers willing to put prices up on the site, even now on release day. It's like they're waiting to see what others do. Like a Mexican standoff. I want to buy from OC ideally, but will be looking around later today. Would really help if retailers started showing final pricing before 2pm.

Why would they do that when they’re under NDA until 2pm?

LiE · 12 Oct 2022 at 07:56

Gypsum Fantastic said:
Fascinating that almost no retailers willing to put prices up on the site, even now on release day. It's like they're waiting to see what others do. Like a Mexican standoff. I want to buy from OC ideally, but will be looking around later today. Would really help if retailers started showing final pricing before 2pm.

Probably wondering how much they can get away. Those yachts and super cars don’t pay for themselves.

ralv585 · 12 Oct 2022 at 07:57

labbby said:
Oh come on stop using pics that relate to something else.

That was the Intel arc release day

gpuerrilla · 12 Oct 2022 at 08:01

Gypsum Fantastic said:
Fascinating that almost no retailers willing to put prices up on the site, even now on release day. It's like they're waiting to see what others do. Like a Mexican standoff. I want to buy from OC ideally, but will be looking around later today. Would really help if retailers started showing final pricing before 2pm.

Gypsum Fantastic · 12 Oct 2022 at 08:05

Captain said:
Why would they do that when they’re under NDA until 2pm?

Some have got pricing up. Many haven't. And correct me if I'm wrong for sure, but why would there be an NDA on how individual retailers choose to price products they already have in stock? The embargo, as far as I am aware, is on when they can sell, not when they can list. Unless there's an NDA specifically on AIB pricing that I'm not aware of.

Po|ygon · 12 Oct 2022 at 08:09

Gypsum Fantastic said:
Some have got pricing up. Many haven't. And correct me if I'm wrong for sure, but why would there be an NDA on how individual retailers choose to price products they already have in stock? The embargo, as far as I am aware, is on when they can sell, not when they can list. Unless there's an NDA specifically on AIB pricing that I'm not aware of.

Perhaps its part of the NDA agreement that they cant compete on pricing until certain day and tine to gain an advantage releasing their cards also, which have pricing....

Dave2150 · 12 Oct 2022 at 08:12

Grim5 said:
The benchers and reviewers aren't waiting anymore and are just flooding 3D mark with their scores

Why this matters today is that there is a whole bunch of benchmarks for AIB cards up on the hall of fame and this allows us to see their temperature

I've seen Timespy Extreme benches for an MSI, Gainward, Galax and Colorful 4090's and from different users so far and all them are running at 52c to 61c

Basically the AIB 4090's run with water cooling type temperature right out of the box

Some of the AIB cards are 0.5KG heavier than the FE - so will offer even better thermals and lower fan noise.

The 4090 FE is too loud for me. I have the 3090 FE which I already find too loud, the 4090 FE is 5DB louder, so big no for me! AIB card all the way.

Also think Nvidia need to partner up with Noctua to get some quality fans on their FE going forward - the fan wobble that the 4090FE's seem plagued with will likely get worse (and louder) over time.

The fans on my 3090FE seem to have gotten louder over time as well, they feel very cheap.

deuse · 12 Oct 2022 at 08:15

Hostile_18 said:
Anyone still undecided about which card to get lol. I'm torn between Fe, Gigabyte OC or Suprim. Possibly even the Trio even if there is no vapour chamber, I love they have prioritised silence.

The AIB boost is not that high for the price I.E Asus strix 2650 boost
The FE can do 2.800+

I may hold off till overclock net post reviews.

deuse · 12 Oct 2022 at 08:17

Gypsum Fantastic said:
Fascinating that almost no retailers willing to put prices up on the site, even now on release day. It's like they're waiting to see what others do. Like a Mexican standoff. I want to buy from OC ideally, but will be looking around later today. Would really help if retailers started showing final pricing before 2pm.

https://store.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/store/gpu/?page=2&limit=9&locale=en-gb&category=GPU&gpu=RTX%204090&gpu_filter=RTX%204090~19,RTX%203090%20Ti~3,RTX%203090~14,RTX%203080%20Ti~5,RTX%203080~21,RTX%203070%20Ti~1,RTX%203070~18,RTX%203060%20Ti~16,RTX%203060~19,RTX%203050%20Ti~0,RTX%203050~0,RTX%202080%20Ti~1,RTX%202080%20SUPER~0,RTX%202080~0,RTX%202070~0,RTX%202060%20SUPER~1,RTX%202060~5,GTX%201660%20Ti~3,GTX%201660%20SUPER~3,GTX%201660~3,GTX%201650%20Ti~0,GTX%201650~9

Grim5 · 12 Oct 2022 at 08:17

Dave2150 said:
Some of the AIB cards are 0.5KG heavier than the FE - so will offer even better thermals and lower fan noise.

The 4090 FE is too loud for me. I have the 3090 FE which I already find too loud, the 4090 FE is 5DB louder, so big no for me! AIB card all the way.

Also think Nvidia need to partner up with Noctua to get some quality fans on their FE going forward - the fan wobble that the 4090FE's seem plagued with will likely get worse (and louder) over time.

The fans on my 3090FE seem to have gotten louder over time as well, they feel very cheap.

And one of the fans on the 4090 FE is wobbly, multiple reviewers noticed it

Grim5 · 12 Oct 2022 at 08:18

If you guys wanna see how the 4090 performs with a old CPU to create a horrible bottleneck, see Joker's review.

He's using a Intel 9900k, which isn't a bad CPU in isolation, its just too weak for the 4090 and creates a bottleneck at 4k.

In several games, at 4k max settings he's getting nearly the same performance as his 3090ti, the 9900k just cannot keep up.

Dave2150 · 12 Oct 2022 at 08:19

Hostile_18 said:
MSI actually promoting their key advantage today, Silence!

GeForce RTX™ 40 Series GAMING X TRIO - Play Hard, Stay Silent | MSI

GAMING IN STYLEWith the dragon spirits resting deep inside your heart, you know what GeForce RTX™ 40 Series GAMING X TRIO is going to give.MSI GAMING X TRIO ...

www.youtube.com

If you're on about MSI taking special engineering efforts to reduce coil whine - don't buy into this. They don't.

I've used MSI 3080's and 3090's, both of which had loud coilwhine. If you used an MSI 3000 series with no coilwhine, it was sheer luck and nothing down to MSI's actions.

Po|ygon · 12 Oct 2022 at 08:20

deuse said:
The AIB boost is not that high for the price I.E Asus strix 2650 boost
The FE can do 2.800+

I may hold off till overclock net post reviews.

Im a STRIX man always have been, but looking at the price difference between that and a FE card...its the cost of a whole new CPU difference.... FE it is then...

gpuerrilla · 12 Oct 2022 at 08:21

Grim5 said:
If you guys wanna see how the 4090 performs with a old CPU to create a horrible bottleneck, see Joker's review.

He's using a Intel 9900k, which isn't a bad CPU in isolation, its just too weak for the 4090 and creates a bottleneck at 4k.

In several games, at 4k max settings he's getting nearly the same performance as his 3090ti, the 9900k just cannot keep up.

So the 3090Ti is the sweet spot until CPU's improve some more. Save your cash dudes.