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NVIDIA 4000 Series

gpuerrilla said:
So the 3090Ti is the sweet spot until CPU's improve some more. Save your cash dudes.
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I would not get a 4090 if you don't already have or going to get a Zen 4 or 5800x3d from AMD, or Raptor Lake or 12900K from Intel. Anything else and you're asking for trouble and may as well wait for RDNA3 since AMD cards tend to be less CPU bottlenecked
 
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Po|ygon said:
Im a STRIX man always have been, but looking at the price difference between that and a FE card...its the cost of a whole new CPU difference.... FE it is then...
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Was going Strix this time as well but that price. Will see what the Suprim X and AMP Extreme AIRO come in at.

Hopefully all those wanting one get one today. Those queues last time were crap.
 
Grim5 said:
Every GPU has coil whine, you cannot get away from it
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Issue is you'll get older people with natural hearing loss that can't hear the coil whine, be adamant that their card has no coil whine. Also younger people with non age related hearing loss etc.

Plus I think some are just less sensitive to noise overall, compounding the issue. Depends on noise floor in house/flat also, many variables.

I've certainly not seen any 3080 or above with 0 coil whine, and I've been around at least a dozen over the last two years.
 
Po|ygon said:
Im a STRIX man always have been, but looking at the price difference between that and a FE card...its the cost of a whole new CPU difference.... FE it is then...
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True.

I could buy a fe and and slap on a Alphacool AIO cooler and I would still save cash.
 
Dave2150 said:
Some of the AIB cards are 0.5KG heavier than the FE - so will offer even better thermals and lower fan noise.

The 4090 FE is too loud for me. I have the 3090 FE which I already find too loud, the 4090 FE is 5DB louder, so big no for me! AIB card all the way.

Also think Nvidia need to partner up with Noctua to get some quality fans on their FE going forward - the fan wobble that the 4090FE's seem plagued with will likely get worse (and louder) over time.

The fans on my 3090FE seem to have gotten louder over time as well, they feel very cheap.
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The 4090FE fans are now using fluid dynamic bearings, hence the visible wobble.

They’re much improved over the 30 series fans and have a much longer life expectancy, even if they do appear to wobble. HTH
 
Googling “RTX4090” and clicking on “shopping” brings up OCUK pricing, which pretty much mirrors the prices from the company we can’t mention.
No idea if they’ll stay that way though.
 
HRL said:
The 4090FE fans are now using fluid dynamic bearings, hence the visible wobble.

They’re much improved over the 30 series fans and have a much longer life expectancy, even if they do appear to wobble. HTH
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That doesn't make sense because only one fan wobbles, the one on the opposite side doesn't

Unless you're saying only one fan is fluid dynamic and the other isn't?
 
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Dave2150 said:
If you're on about MSI taking special engineering efforts to reduce coil whine - don't buy into this. They don't.

I've used MSI 3080's and 3090's, both of which had loud coilwhine. If you used an MSI 3000 series with no coilwhine, it was sheer luck and nothing down to MSI's actions.
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I have had two Suprims with no/very little coil whine and two Strix 3080s that were absolutely terrible. Reinforcing this MSI always comes out top of the polls. I think you've been incredibly unlucky.
 
I'll stand by what I've said before, it is a bonkers price for bonkers performance the majority of us don't need nor can afford.
 
TOW said:
A 20-30% generational improvement in PPW would be impressive... 50% or greater is epic.

Whether the relative truth is 50 or 100% direct improvement or somewhere between... it's really rather impressive.
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If it was on the same node (like RDNA1 to RDNA2) then it would be.

However, most of the PPW from Ampere to Ada surely comes from moving from Samsung's "cheap" 8nm to TSMC's "ultra expensive" 4nm, so that's a fair bit less impressive.
 
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