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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Andydigital said:
My MSi 3080 Gaming Trio X thinks it’s a teenager it whines so much.
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Betting its a paper launch again been looking for FE 4090 from nvidia direct and they showing zero stock. Still pushing the overstocked 3080ti and 3090ti though. Good luck to those who manage to snag one.
 
Po|ygon said:
Im a STRIX man always have been, but looking at the price difference between that and a FE card...its the cost of a whole new CPU difference.... FE it is then...
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Same , currently own a 3090 strix and had a 1080ti strix prior to that but this generation the rog tax is a bit to much (greed imo ! ) at £700 which will basically buy a new i9-13900k or R9 7959X so going FE aswell, also the fact the FE can boost to 600w if needed means you get very very little extra for your hard earned £700 , some nice fans and rgb please you sir ? :cry:
 
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Killjoy128 said:
Betting its a paper launch again been looking for FE 4090 from nvidia direct and they showing zero stock. Still pushing the overstocked 3080ti and 3090ti though. Good luck to those who manage to snag one.
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For the Thousandth time in this thread its released at 2pm which is why it is out of stock currently.
 
JonRGV250 said:
Googling “RTX4090” and clicking on “shopping” brings up OCUK pricing, which pretty much mirrors the prices from the company we can’t mention.
No idea if they’ll stay that way though.
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Unsure if they're final and will stay that way, but the cached ocuk prices have jumped up (eg the inno3d ichill card up from 1999.99 to 2099.99) and prices elsewhere for other 4090 models don't look particularly competitive, which is a shame as would rather buy fron from ocuk.
 
Grim5 said:
I would not get a 4090 if you don't already have or going to get a Zen 4 or 5800x3d from AMD, or Raptor Lake or 12900K from Intel. Anything else and you're asking for trouble and may as well wait for RDNA3 since AMD cards tend to be less CPU bottlenecked
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i have to disagree in some respects. i think if you are gaming at 4k or in vr then it's pretty certain you are gpu bottlenecked, atleast i am with a i7 7700K / 3080TI. i'll find out for certain on thursday anyway if i'm successful in buying a 4090.

Edit: ignore the above, i've just seen this benchmarking vid you posted with someone with a 9900K, interesting, something to think about indeed.
 
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Gypsum Fantastic said:
Disagree all you like. Hiding factors that have nothing whatsoever to do with the performance of the thing you're testing, but have a bearing on the result within an average is bad science. It makes sense to show these within the individual charts for specific games, but throwing those inhibited figures into the average and saying 'this is the performance gain over X' is not just misleading, it's incompetent.
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No-one I've seen is hiding anything. But you continue to miss the point of these n-game averages: they're there to tell you what kind of performance gain you will see from this card when you're playing a game. That they're bottlenecking the best hardware you can plausible pair them with then that's absolutely relevant, and absolutely to do with the performance of the thing you're testing. Ignoring them isn't statistically correct, it's ignoring reality. The benchmarks which should be measuring the theoretical running-in-a-vacuum performance that you're talking about are synthetic benchmarks.
 
Mr Jack said:
No-one I've seen is hiding anything. But you continue to miss the point of these n-game averages: they're there to tell you what kind of performance gain you will see from this card when you're playing a game. That they're bottlenecking the best hardware you can plausible pair them with then that's absolutely relevant, and absolutely to do with the performance of the thing you're testing. Ignoring them isn't statistically correct, it's ignoring reality. The benchmarks which should be measuring the theoretical running-in-a-vacuum performance that you're talking about are synthetic benchmarks.
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You're still missing the point. Yes, I agree with you on an individual game basis, no I do not agree with you on an aggregate basis. You can't dump it all into an aggregate score across 20 games, half of which are bottlenecked by the CPU or the engine, and say 'this is the average performance of this card' – it's misleading and not a demonstration of the capability of the card because you're measuring it against cards that AREN'T bottlenecked by external factors. You can and should test those games and show the bottlenecks individually. When averaging all the games together, you are creating a synthetic by the way. Just an utterly terrible one.
 
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Good luck to the guys after a 4090 today, I'm good with my 3090FE at the moment for the games I actually play.

I think everyone needs to chill a bit and reduce the FOMO, if you still have PTSD from the 30xx series launch then just pinch yourself and remember we are in a very different situation for this launch.

Not in a pandemic anymore with everyone stuck indoors
GPU mining dead as disco
So many people built gaming pc's during RTX 3000 series availability they aren't in the market anymore as they now have their systems completed
Macro economics...everyone's skint
No scalper margin

It'll all be OK.......
 
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