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NVIDIA 4000 Series

RTX 4070 £529.99 matching 3090 Ti and I'll bite :D do we think the 4000 series cards will finally drive 4k 144hz at a reasonable price/Tier? - I.e not needing the absolute best (maybe a 4070/80 can drive this?..)
 
do we think the 4000 series cards will finally drive 4k 144hz at a reasonable price/Tier? - I.e not needing the absolute best (maybe a 4070/80 can drive this?..)
Possibly without RT and without every settings maxed.
I think with RT you are still looking at the best of the best for a while as it will continue to push boundaries. I'm fine with this, as this is an enthusiast feature.
 
Agree. If nvidia pull off a hell of a jump then its possible a 4070 could be that capable. However knowing nvidia, after their initial hype and trying to sell the card at launch (with a few smokes and mirrors) they wont want to give that away for the usual 70 tier which makes me think they will tame it (otherwise people wont be interested in the 80+90 cards).

It will then boil down to price. If what we hear is the rollout plan, the 70 will be available after the 4090, 4080's so we should know how good it will be once you see how the 4080 performs.
 
New rumoured release dates in this article that states October as being the release date for the 4090 which does seem a bit more plausible compared to the July/August dates that were floating about, personally thought they were bs but these new dates do seem a lot more accurate and inline with past releases etc

  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 – October 2022 Launch
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 – November 2022 Launch
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 – December 2022 Launch
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 – January CES 2023 Unveil

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-...rtedly-consumes-more-power-than-rtx-3070-220w
 
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New rumoured release dates in this article that states October as being the release date for the 4090 which does seem a bit more plausible compared to the July/August dates that were floating about, personally thought they were bs but these new dates do seem a lot more accurate and inline with past releases etc

  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 – October 2022 Launch
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 – November 2022 Launch
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 – December 2022 Launch
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 – January CES 2023 Unveil

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-...rtedly-consumes-more-power-than-rtx-3070-220w
Be interesting to see if they will continue the use of 3rd party for selling their FE cards? I think the one per custom will still be a thing though as it was implemented and did quite well in deterring some scalpers.
 
Agree. If nvidia pull off a hell of a jump then its possible a 4070 could be that capable. However knowing nvidia, after their initial hype and trying to sell the card at launch (with a few smokes and mirrors) they wont want to give that away for the usual 70 tier which makes me think they will tame it (otherwise people wont be interested in the 80+90 cards).

It will then boil down to price. If what we hear is the rollout plan, the 70 will be available after the 4090, 4080's so we should know how good it will be once you see how the 4080 performs.
You mean if they pull a 1080ti?
 
4060 apparently pulling 220w, impressive power efficiency that if it matches a 3080 or 3090 in performance especially if they can undervolt as well as ampere.
 
Jeez the '080 class cards used to be under 200W not long back (1080). Now 220W on the lower mid-range cards?
My thoughts too, robbing Peter to pay Paul. Eventually you run out of power budget, it hits first at the top end, sounds like that's where this generation may be headed
 
Race to the top! It's kind of mad, but it's easier to market better performance, quite a few people won't actually consider power consumption. Not right, but I'd bet a fair proportion don't even think about it.
 
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Jeez the '080 class cards used to be under 200W not long back (1080). Now 220W on the lower mid-range cards?
Considering you're going to be getting 3080/3090 or better performance (especially for RT), that's good, more efficient i.e. 3080 at stock uses 350w and a 3090 is what 450w? So if a 4060 comes in offering the same or better performance with less power consumption, surely that's a good thing? Especially since people who are watching the pennies will most likely be going for that class of gpu or lesser.

Of course, it would be ideal for us to be using less power each time when comparing the same tiers but compare the performance increases you're getting when comparing something like a 1080 to a 3080.... That's where people miss the point entirely with RDNA 2 power "efficiency", yes it's great for rasterization but for ray tracing, it's beyond awful.

Race to the top! It's kind of mad, but it's easier to market better performance, quite a few people won't actually consider power consumption. Not right, but I'd bet a fair proportion don't even think about it.

It's all about "efficiency", not so much "consumption" for me.

I'm expecting 40xx to be good undervolters too and if so, you can probably reduce power consumption by 100w with no hit to performance.
 
Considering you're going to be getting 3080/3090 or better performance (especially for RT), that's good, more efficient i.e. 3080 at stock uses 350w and a 3090 is what 450w? So if a 4060 comes in offering the same or better performance with less power consumption, surely that's a good thing? Especially since people who are watching the pennies will most likely be going for that class of gpu or lesser.

Generally it's the '070 class which matches the previous gen '080 Ti class cards, I'd be surprised if the 4060 managed to be level with a 3090.
 
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