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NVIDIA 4000 Series
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Soldato
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Probably told to say that by Nvidia, he has a huge following as annoying and shill like as he is, millions take notice of what he says and act accordingly. Just a ploy to make everyone panic now into buying all that non moving 30 series stock left on shelves due to everyone waiting for the 40 series, because the old 30 series is such a "great" deal now hitting that MSRP 2 years on. 
Just read between the lines people.
Just read between the lines people.
I can’t believe Jay has made the video if he’s not reasonably sure. If he’s wrong and 4000 arrives in Q3/4 2022 then we have the “receipts”, as the kids say, and he’s just cratered his credibility (not that his reputation seems that good from other posts here).
I have no doubt the cards the majority of the market are interested in, the mid-high range, aren't due to be launched until 2023.
But if AMD release and they can't respond with anything then that is a serious dropped ball - explain that to the shareholders allowing a competitor to beat you to market with a new performance tier, is that better or worse than having 3000 series inventory that they could still find channels to sell.
I can see them holding back 4080/4090 ready to swiftly respond to a competitor launch. It does them no harm to delay as much as possible and clear inventory, so long as they can respond reasonably quickly and get something out.
Even if AMD launch a fullish stack of models up and down the price range, putting out a 4080/4090 is all Nvidia need to do to get the market in wait and see mode for their mid range "coming soon" - ie strategy unchanged.
But if AMD release and they can't respond with anything then that is a serious dropped ball - explain that to the shareholders allowing a competitor to beat you to market with a new performance tier, is that better or worse than having 3000 series inventory that they could still find channels to sell.
I can see them holding back 4080/4090 ready to swiftly respond to a competitor launch. It does them no harm to delay as much as possible and clear inventory, so long as they can respond reasonably quickly and get something out.
Even if AMD launch a fullish stack of models up and down the price range, putting out a 4080/4090 is all Nvidia need to do to get the market in wait and see mode for their mid range "coming soon" - ie strategy unchanged.
Lol, they need to sell parts, us lot ain't going to buy a 3080 if we already have one are we?
For what it's worth every other nvidia release tends to be a bit of an expensive disappointment anyway, I hope not though.
For what it's worth every other nvidia release tends to be a bit of an expensive disappointment anyway, I hope not though.
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just noise and marketing crap to encourage people to buy up the overpriced stock now imho.
If they really want to shift warehoused stock they need to do better on the price that filters down to gamers because they are all that's left now and they are pretty salty at the exploitation.
If they really want to shift warehoused stock they need to do better on the price that filters down to gamers because they are all that's left now and they are pretty salty at the exploitation.
There is no way Nvidia, will let AMD have free reign on the GPU market for a whole year. They are probably saying this to shift current GPUs.
He doesn't have any credibility. Even Linus is a bastion of truth and knowledge by comparison. Jay's a clickbait merchant who'll say anything if it gets him views, and has been spectacularly wrong about things many times in the past. The people who form parasocial relationships with these Youtube "personalities" will always find an excuse for that and defend them on some technicality. It doesn't hurt their bottom line at all and they don't care one bit what the wider world thinks about them, because they don't profit from you. If his friends at EVGA/Nvidia have told him anything, it's to help them out with shifting their massive piles of soon to be obsolete cards that are no longer selling at the price they want for them.
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Nope, not with experienced PC builders. A long time ago I realised he has his bias or pay check influence which was bad enough but he would drop a few boo boo's to indicate his knowledge isn't that great. Over time you just filtered him out as a content creator.
Still surprised he has expressed this which will either backfire on him massively or he will spin it. Will give it a chance though and see if others in similar careers think the same..
That depends upon what he is speaking about. On this subject? I agree with you.In general I take the view that it doesn’t matter which of them is saying something; rather it matters how many of them are saying the same thing.
Precisely.
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Does make you wonder if they're struggling with 4nm atm, and maybe they're pushing TSMC for *some* volume this year to enable them to at least launch the flagship...
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If its not ready its not ready. All just clickbait speculation at the moment anyway.
Who knows what is really going to happen or what these cards performance will be till we actually have them in reviewers hands or owners. This whole last 2 years has been nothing but click baiting.
As seen above tweet and all the rumours that have changed so much now that none of the original rumours make sense anymore.
Also who really knows if even AMD have GPUs ready too if there is any truth to all this. Also when we went into covid lockdown many of us here mentioned all that may cause a delay for the next series of hardware and may even be a year delay.. We have to now wait and see I guess.
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So assuming these are true and the 4000 series is delayed by a year, I can see your reasoning in COVID potentially delaying the release. However it does not make sense for them to be doing a sale on the 3000 series. You could argue that they are hoping to get as many people who have been holding out for a GPU on team green before AMD release their new GPU. It also seems strange that we haven't heard rumours of AMD delaying RDNA 3? by a year.
If project management is doing their job they would have known this was going to be delayed 6+ months ago (assuming it is COVID related), and it would have been announced or hinted at, in the investor conference.
Usually a late change in the timeline means that there is a major problem.
If AMD comes out with a GPU this winter and Nvidia is absent then we will know that something went horribly wrong in development.
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Considering how fast they churned out the 3090Ti and it was said to be the practice for the 4090 this is hard to believe. Agree we wait on AMD to reveal anything to see what might be going on but last I seen they are on course for an October release?
That makes zero logical sense to me that Nvidia would allow AMD to be ahead in the performance and technology game by a full year. Absolutely. Zero. Sense. It is the antithesis of competition and Nvidia have never acted in that way, they have been at the forefront for years now.
I think the rumour of a full year delay is BS, otherwise the GPU world really is turning on its head.
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Maybe its not about "allowing" AMD to be ahead, maybe its just not ready.