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NVIDIA 4000 Series

I wonder how long they will be in stock now we know AMD can't compete at the top end.

Intersting question. I was waiting to see how the AMD faired but the luke-warm reception so far hasn't pushed me towards the 4080, rather it's just pushed me towards completely missing this generation. It will be interesting to see how many people are like me and how many will now buy a 4080.
 
Does anyone think nvidia will even bother releasing the 4090 Ti now? I think they will release one end of generation as AMD is nowhere close to 4090
There will definitely be a 4090 Ti - the 4090 is a cut-down AD102 and Nvidia will be binning all the 'perfect' ones for another model somewhere down the line. Expect it to be £2,100+ though.
 
Re 4090 ti - this will almost certainly happen later down the line. The 4090 is not using the whole AD102 die and the 450w TDP is well below the max power draw for these cards. Also, I think the 4080 is on the AD103 die and doesn't use the whole die either, so there will probably be a 4080 ti/Super at some point.
 
I just can't see why you would need more performance than the 4090 at the moment.

Most people seem to run them power limited or at reduced voltage as they are so powerful anyway!

That's mostly because it's being run at stock massively into the flat portion of power vs fps curve. You can back the power down 33% and only loose 5% performance.
 
Did you not sort out those black screen issues with the Asrock 6900XT you just bought..?

I ended up, going back a few months, sending a Red Devil 6800XT back due to performance issues in some Indie games I played. But it too had an odd black screen issue, tho that was the least of its problems. I went to a MSI 3070.

Happening more often now but at odd specific scenarios. For example, can play WOW all day no issue, but sometimes it black screens after character login and I have to hard reset.
Just rolling with it for now.
 
I just can't see why you would need more performance than the 4090 at the moment.

Most people seem to run them power limited or at reduced voltage as they are so powerful anyway!
There's room for a card with more vram for the folk using them to render on that don't want to pay whatever the 48gb RTX6000 is going to cost. Seems to be about 8k usd.
 
I've never been into overclocking all my cards have been factory overclocked all ready.im just a plug and play type no hassle..
 
From my testing the most you'll get from the 4090 is around 9-10% overclocking and that is absolute best case scenario. And that's if you use a 600W+ BIOS and increase the voltage to max, and have the card running as cool as possible.

Quick test on Dying Light 2 at 450W (actual peak 450W) vs 650W (actual peak 640W). Settings were 4K max every option but blur and CA off.
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Note the gain is only 5% here, but the power draw is higher than games without RT where you can extract a little more performance from overclocking.
 
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From my testing the most you'll get from the 4090 is around 9-10% overclocking and that is absolute best case scenario. And that's if you use a 600W+ BIOS and increase the voltage to max, and have the card running as cool as possible.

Quick test on Dying Light 2 at 450W (actual peak 450W) vs 650W (actual peak 640W). Settings were 4K max every option but blur and CA off.
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PkeC9wg.jpg

Note the gain is only 5% here, but the power draw is higher than games without RT where you can extract a little more performance from overclocking.
Seeing 11% ( MW2 ) 13% ( TR ) on mine from stock to OC but seems to be all you can get out of them and at the end of the day its free performance if you need it by moving a few sliders around :D With the 4090 as it has so much headroom at the minute can see a case for running it stock and letting it downclock as it needs and save power etc . Undervolting/Underpoweing is not my cup of Tea as it isn't yours either i imagine ... you don't strike me as someone to leave performance on the table ;)
 
Seeing 11% ( MW2 ) 13% ( TR ) on mine from stock to OC but seems to be all you can get out of them and at the end of the day its free performance if you need it by moving a few sliders around :D With the 4090 as it has so much headroom at the minute can see a case for running it stock and letting it downclock as it needs and save power etc . Undervolting/Underpoweing is not my cup of Tea as it isn't yours either i imagine ... you don't strike me as someone to leave performance on the table ;)
I think mine boost a little higher at stock tbh than some I've seen. You are also using water cooling too so that probably plays a part in allowing more OC potential than most will see. Those games are not as harsh as Dying Light 2 so probably explains why you can get a little more from it.

I power limit with this card tbh, but for all YT videos and benchmarks its balls to the wall. :D
 
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Can't wait to fire up my PC on Friday ( day off and get to play with my new card

some msfs please. .
 
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