NVIDIA 4000 Series

[Gibbo]

The 7900XTX is cheaper. It's also a definitely a better buy than the 7900XT which can't sell out at £900.

It will struggle soon imo once we it's been resupplied a couple of times.

Even the 4090 isn't selling out at £80-£100 premium anymore.

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If they sold out over the festive break I’d be truly amazed and also very happy considering how many I purchased.

 

[Deleted User 456458]

If they sold out over the festive break I’d be truly amazed and also very happy considering how many I purchased.

I’m sure they will trickle out but 900-950 will be the range at which they move fast.

Lets see how Jensen tries to shaft the channel and aib’s at ces.

 

[Nexus18]

As for stock not selling out instantly for 4080, I think what @TNA said is accurate i.e. once initial hype/initial launch window passes by, the sales for for 7900xtx will also slow down and we will see it sitting in stock for longer as lets be honest, it's a good gpu (once we look past the initial teething/driver/hardware issues) like the 4080 but stupidly overpriced as well and neither should be more than £900 at the very most.... That and remember, ampere/rdna 2 was an exception in terms of stock being gone instantly because of the whole mining boom, covid/lockdown, before this gpus launches/stock was never an issue, in fact, did they even go out of stock once the first launch week was over with or even after the first couple of days were over with???

 

[muon]

If they sold out over the festive break I’d be truly amazed and also very happy considering how many I purchased.

I'm sure you would have priced it higher if you could. Ultimately no good having no stock or stock that isn't selling.

I can't see the cards selling in the volumes they have for too much longer. The 3090 was the first card to have good general availability even with the crypto madness.

Nvidia had to release supers last time they did this.

 

[Deleted User 456458]

I’d be very apprehensive about stocking aib 4090’s. The FE being cheaper, its high end build quality, cooling, 600w PL, 3yr warranty and resell appeal are tough to fight into as Nvidia pumps out more supply.

People might be left holding some big bags there…

 

[uscool]

Nah. 4070 Ti will be the first DLSS 3 card under $1000, still spank the XTX at RT, and given real pricing will actually have a wider than $300 pricing gap than MSRP to 4080 (speculation on my part). And now with the AMD reference cards being a ****-show thus driving that interest towards custom cards (where AMD's pricing advantage will narrow) I think it will end up even better positioned. Besides for CoD AMD has no real selling points for their RDNA 3 cards, and that was already an uphill battle given the Nvidia marketing juggernaut. Since most people buy based on brand & word of mouth, and given how poor RDNA 3 reviews & reception has been, it's going to be impossible for AMD to really do much. Luckily they don't have to, because they only sell small quantities and are still very poorly supplying for mobile which is where most of the market goes anyway.

Spank the XTX ? Wonder how it will do at 4k with it's 192 bit bus

Considering they kept the RRP of 6900xt , will be interesting if they also do that for 7800xt and what kind of performance at 1440p

 

[Nexus18]

Nah. 4070 Ti will be the first DLSS 3 card under $1000, still spank the XTX at RT, and given real pricing will actually have a wider than $300 pricing gap than MSRP to 4080 (speculation on my part). And now with the AMD reference cards being a ****-show thus driving that interest towards custom cards (where AMD's pricing advantage will narrow) I think it will end up even better positioned. Besides for CoD AMD has no real selling points for their RDNA 3 cards, and that was already an uphill battle given the Nvidia marketing juggernaut. Since most people buy based on brand & word of mouth, and given how poor RDNA 3 reviews & reception has been, it's going to be impossible for AMD to really do much. Luckily they don't have to, because they only sell small quantities and are still very poorly supplying for mobile which is where most of the market goes anyway.

Careful, you may be marked as a nvidia shill again because your narrative doesn't fit with others agenda....

4070ti needs to come in at £700/750 if the rumours of it being slightly better than a 3090ti are true but chances are it will be £900, which would be more attractive than the 7900xt as the 4080 is more attractive than the 7900xtx but again, all these new gpus are just too damn expensive and both amd and nvidia are just taking everyone for a ride.

 

[Alt0153]

Careful, you may be marked as a nvidia shill again because your narrative doesn't fit with others agenda....

4070ti needs to come in at £700/750 if the rumours of it being slightly better than a 3090ti are true but chances are it will be £900, which would be more attractive than the 7900xt as the 4080 is more attractive than the 7900xtx but again, all these new gpus are just too damn expensive and both amd and nvidia are just taking everyone for a ride.

all aboard the gravy train

 

[uscool]

Careful, you may be marked as a nvidia shill again because your narrative doesn't fit with others agenda....

4070ti needs to come in at £700/750 if the rumours of it being slightly better than a 3090ti are true but chances are it will be £900, which would be more attractive than the 7900xt as the 4080 is more attractive than the 7900xtx but again, all these new gpus are just too damn expensive and both amd and nvidia are just taking everyone for a ride.

Isnt the 4070ti which they tried to call 4080 12gb ? Nvidia's own slides showed it being slightly slower then the 3090ti both without dlss

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[Nexus18]

Isnt the 4070ti just renamed 4080 12gb ? Nvidia's own slides showed it being slightly slower then the 3090ti both without dlss

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Maybe, haven't really followed or read into it as no interest, just seen some headlines today about it supposedly being 5-10% faster than 3090ti

 

[Gibbo]

I’m sure they will trickle out but 900-950 will be the range at which they move fast.

Lets see how Jensen tries to shaft the channel and aib’s at ces.

If 4090s were sub 1k be 3080 situation repeat, they will never be sub 1k new.

I'm sure you would have priced it higher if you could. Ultimately no good having no stock or stock that isn't selling.

I can't see the cards selling in the volumes they have for too much longer. The 3090 was the first card to have good general availability even with the crypto madness.

Nvidia had to release supers last time they did this.

We have over 20 SKUs in stock on 4090 or did pre festive break and close to 1000 units they are priced from 1679 to 2k and beyond. For OcUK 4090 is a superb selling card and what I have on hand now will be gone within 30 days as we get through them quick enough.

New year will see slow down for sure as it does every year with February always been worse month and I always ensure stocks are minimal when entering February so can jump on any deals should there be any.

 

[Nexus18]

Posted before but needs posting again, don't get ripped of

4080 ti (assuming it is within 10% of a 4090) and 4090 at £1200-1500 and a 4080 for £850/900 is what I would consider to be good appropriate pricing taking into account inflation etc.

 

[muon]

If 4090s were sub 1k be 3080 situation repeat, they will never be sub 1k new.



We have over 20 SKUs in stock on 4090 or did pre festive break and close to 1000 units they are priced from 1679 to 2k and beyond. For OcUK 4090 is a superb selling card and what I have on hand now will be gone within 30 days as we get through them quick enough.

New year will see slow down for sure as it does every year with February always been worse month and I always ensure stocks are minimal when entering February so can jump on any deals should there be any.

The run rate must slow down though. Your 30 day estimate must different from what it was in October. I don't know what nvidia's manufacturing run rates are, but presumably it is at least as fast as what it was back in October, therefore at some point the supply chain will be saturated. Demand doesn't massively exceed supply it sounds like.

 

[RavenXXX2]

Jensen will be dropping his knickers soon enough now that high end ampere is running out. 4080s and now 4090s are in abundance, only so many gamers can or a willing to pay a daft amount of money for GPU.

 

[uscool]

4080 Fe instock close to 2 weeks now , next up 4070ti the one they tried to call 4080 12gb before

 

[mrk]

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Interesting, in Canada going by reddit comments the 3090 ti is still selling for over $2000 CAD lol, seems last gen isn't moving much on price, whereas new gen like this appears to be cheaper.

 

[muon]

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Interesting, in Canada going by reddit comments the 3090 ti is still selling for over $2000 CAD lol, seems last gen isn't moving much on price, whereas new gen like this appears to be cheaper.

With that benchmark, the comparison between gens isn't reliable. Look how much faster the 4090 is than the 3090 Ti.

The within gen comparison is likely to be more reliable.

 

[Joxeon]

Spank the XTX ? Wonder how it will do at 4k with it's 192 bit bus

Considering they kept the RRP of 6900xt , will be interesting if they also do that for 7800xt and what kind of performance at 1440p

4070ti will be 10-20% faster than a 3080 if it's the same as the unlaunched 4080 12gb so a bit slower than a 7900XT.

The 7800XT looks like it'll barely be as fast if any faster than the 6800XT if it gets cut to 60 CUs as the 84CU 7900XT isn't much better than an 80CU 6950XT.

The 4070 non ti does look particularly impressive either if it ends up with the same amount of cuda cores as a 3070, will probably sit 10% slower than a 3080 for similar money.

 

[Twinz]

4070ti will be 10-20% faster than a 3080 if it's the same as the unlaunched 4080 12gb so a bit slower than a 7900XT.

If money spent on new tech isn't meaningfully-faster than the same money spent on last-gen tech, then it's stagnation.

 

[Poneros]

Spank the XTX ? Wonder how it will do at 4k with it's 192 bit bus

Considering they kept the RRP of 6900xt , will be interesting if they also do that for 7800xt and what kind of performance at 1440p

It's going to falter more at 4K, but let's remember it's never really 4K (DLSS). Still more mem b/w than the 3070 at least (and way more l2$), so it's not the end of the world. >= to a 3090 Ti is no joke. When looking at RT that's still comfortably above the 7900 XTX.

The 7800XT looks like it'll barely be as fast if any faster than the 6800XT if it gets cut to 60 CUs as the 84CU 7900XT isn't much better than an 80CU 6950XT.

The bad thing about this is that the 6800 XT at least had the advantage of being monolithic. In this case you'd have to deal with the MCM headaches and not even reap any performance benefit. Only good for AMD's margins, because we know sure as chit the price won't be great.

If money spent on new tech isn't meaningfully-faster than the same money spent on last-gen tech, then it's stagnation.

Sadly it's been that way for years now. Started with RX 480 / GTX 1060 then crept up the price brackets every gen.