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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Joxeon said:
Wow OCUK must be desperate to shift those 4080s, they probably know a price cut is incoming and don't want to be left holding the bag.
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Don’t ask don’t get right !? @Alt0153

This is a fantastic example of a retailer being connected with their customers! I interacted with a buyer/manager who decided to actually reply/act to make me a happy customer!! It’s very rare and very much appreciated @Gibbo !

He explained it well in his next reply but it would indeed be silly for them to indeed shift these at a loss if he thought a price drop was around the corner (covered by nvidia/aib). If they did cut the price given what the leaks say about 4070ti it won’t be much more than £1099…

I don’t like gpu prices more than anyone… but I want/need an upgrade and I don’t know how much better a similar prices xtx would be… view it as lower risk… although that 6900XT promo with 2 games does look very good still at £699…
 
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ICDP said:
The problem with RT is that in many ways it does make things worse. They aim for what a camera sees and not the human eye. So in W3 for example the interior of homes even with lots of windows looks far too dark. Black crush kills details where in reality they would and should be easily visible.
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Time to get an OLED
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
How can you say that? I haven't played W3 since the update but from what I've seen its night and day in lighting and shadows, though it still needs work in some areas like water reflections. When RT is done well it adds a lot to the realism.

video starts at RT

I think RT added a lot to Metro Exodus.
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I change my view a bit on water then, in some areas its better on the new version, still prefer older lighting.

But on performance, this issue with 1 or 2 threads bottlenecking the game is common in most games I play, really common in titles often not covered by reviewers. I do wonder if Nvidia sponsored this change, as its the same dev as cyberpunk which is another game with massive performance drops since launch. DLSS 3 been the save the day tech, although not for the stutters, ahh the stutters, the same issue as FF7 remake caused by live shader or texture loading/complication. DX12 been worse than DX11 isnt a new thing either and I remember DX12 been marketed as a fix for CPU bound issues in games.

If I remember right DX11 had Nvidia doing optimisations in their own driver, DX12 the so called advantage it hands over more of that control to dev's but then shows when they dont optimise properly and now with it been done differently harder for Nvidia to fix in drivers, I think thats why the DX12 performance is worse.
 
Leww said:
Don’t ask don’t get right !? @Alt0153

This is a fantastic example of a retailer being connected with their customers! I interacted with a buyer/manager who decided to actually reply/act to make me a happy customer!! It’s very rare and very much appreciated @Gibbo !

He explained it well in his next reply but it would indeed be silly for them to indeed shift these at a loss if he thought a price drop was around the corner (covered by nvidia/aib). If they did cut the price given what the leaks say about 4070ti it won’t be much more than £1099…

I don’t like gpu prices more than anyone… but I want/need an upgrade and I don’t know how much better a similar prices xtx would be… view it as lower risk… although that 6900XT promo with 2 games does look very good still at £699…
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Remember the door swings both ways and they wouldn't be doing the deal especially at a loss if the cards were selling well for a higher price.

You say you don't like the prices but you've just told Nvidia you do, so now you're relying on others who also want/need an upgrade but are not prepared to to let nvidia get away with these shenanigans to keep pricing from getting even worse by the time you next come to upgrade.
 
Joxeon said:
Remember the door swings both ways and they wouldn't be doing the deal especially at a loss if the cards were selling well for a higher price.

You say you don't like the prices but you've just told Nvidia you do, so now you're relying on others who also want/need an upgrade but are not prepared to to let nvidia get away with these shenanigans to keep pricing from getting even worse by the time you next come to upgrade.
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I think in this case the loss OC took was due to more of an inventory management/risk management move. Its pretty standard in practice to monitor SKU levels and here he isn’t discounting ALL its specifically one sku they perhaps over ordered to a specific thresholds (4080 obviously isn’t selling at a level they’d be happy to hold X of that brand, sell take cash flow and move to fast moving part Y).

I agree the cards are all overpriced I don’t like it but I am also comfortable with the overall cost (I paid WAY less for my Ram/storage/CPU/Monitor etc) … I’ve been building computers for 25 years and it’s no more expensive then it’s always been

If it becomes prohibitively expensive for me in the future I’ll stick to my other expensive hobbies or console game.
 
Nexus18 said:
I think stock was pretty good this time round for amd but agree overall, that and we don't have the covid/lockdown nor mining fiasco anymore so in many ways we're back to the old days of launches i.e. gone are the days where we don't need part alert to tell us when a GPU is back in stock and roughly the MSRP price over the course of 2 years and then sold out within 2 seconds......
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Absolutely this, we should be happy that you can readily purchase a card on the market rather than have telegram alerts etc enabled just to do so :cry: Sure we can have a moan about price etc but people were paying mental prices which were nearing 2x the MSRP at the time from actual retailers.
 
bee said:
just set up my alienware aw3423dwf, got it for £75 off with the voucher code in the monitor forum, if anyone is on the fence about these then omg just do it, hdr is currently a little bugged on nvidia cards but it still destroys my lg cx tv for image quality/brightness



did that with my 2080ti and it lasted fine, dlss helped an awful lot of course as i'm sure frame generation will aswell, now on a four year upgrade cycle going forward
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How is it bugged with nvidia cards? I have the same monitor, extra money for a g sync ultimate monitor and it's bugged.... You can't update the firmware yourself as well.. Needs to be send into dell as it requires 'specialist tools' to interface with the Nvidia ultimate chip.
 
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Noxia said:
Is your CX faulty? They are not even close from my experience with both. Interested how a 1440p monitor can 'destroy' a 4k one for IQ too.



If you value text clarity I'd go for the C9. If purely gaming then it becomes more difficult.
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Pretty sure the pixel density is the same. Just stating the resolution and not the screen size is pretty misleading.
 
jrodga2k5 said:
Absolutely this, we should be happy that you can readily purchase a card on the market rather than have telegram alerts etc enabled just to do so :cry: Sure we can have a moan about price etc but people were paying mental prices which were nearing 2x the MSRP at the time from actual retailers.
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Miners were paying 2x the price, not anymore.
 
jrodga2k5 said:
Absolutely this, we should be happy that you can readily purchase a card on the market rather than have telegram alerts etc enabled just to do so :cry: Sure we can have a moan about price etc but people were paying mental prices which were nearing 2x the MSRP at the time from actual retailers.
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I ended up turning off alerts as it got annoying with it constantly telling me that the 4080 FE was in stock :cry:
 
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