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NVIDIA 4000 Series

brostradamus said:
next gen nvidia is going for the kill, they will obliterate amd so that they can exclusively focus on core markets like custom ASICs for OEMs like Sony, MS, Valve etc.. atleast thats what the markets are predicting in the form of glorious financial projections for nvidia
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Isn't that already the case? AMD can only compete on price, basically by being cheaper.
 
Table created to visualise the BS :D

ModelDieCUDA
Cores		Memory Bus
(bits)		Bandwidth
(GB/s)		VRAM
(GB)		TDP
(W)		Price
Mobile4050 LaptopAD107256096635-115
Mobile4060 LaptopAD1073072128835-115
Mobile WorkstationRTX 2000 ADAAD1073072128835-140
Desktop4060AD10730721282728115$299
Desktop4060TiAD10643521282888/16160$399/$499
Mobile4070 LaptopAD1064608128835-115
Mobile WorkstationRTX 3000 ADAAD1064608128256835-140
TheoreticalAD106 MaxAD1064608128
Fake/Leak4060 Super512019243212200$399
Mobile WorkstationRTX 3500 ADAAD10451201924321260-140
Desktop4070AD1045888192504.212200$599
WorkstationRTX 4000 SFF ADAAD10461441603202070
Mobile4080 LaptopAD10474241921280-150
Mobile WorkstationRTX 4000 ADAAD10474241924321280-175
Desktop4070 TiAD1047680192504.212285$799
DatacenterL4AD1047680192504.224285
TheoreticalAD104 MaxAD1047680192
Fake/Leak4070 Super819225667216280$699
Mobile4090 LaptopAD10397282561680-150
Mobile WorkstationRTX 5000 ADAAD10397282561680-175
Desktop4080AD1039728256761.816320$1199
TheoreticalAD103 MaxAD10310240256
Fake/Leak4080 Super1331232084020350$1199
Desktop4090AD10216384384100824450$1599
DatacenterL40AD1021817638486424/48300
WorkstationRTX 6000 ADAAD1021817638496048300
TheoreticalAD102 MaxAD102
18432​
384
Fake/Leak4090 Super
18432​
384115224450$1999



Only one that makes a semblance of sense is the 4060 Super, as there has already been a cut down AD104 die with those specs made (for the RTX 3500 ADA Mobile part)


(4090 Super is definitely a no go if even the Datacenter parts are leaving CUDA cores unused likely due to yields. 4070 Super and 4080 Super just seem like too significant cuts of the dies used, to be economically viable, unless yields are really that bad)
 
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brostradamus said:
next gen nvidia is going for the kill, they will obliterate amd so that they can exclusively focus on core markets like custom ASICs for OEMs like Sony, MS, Valve etc.. atleast thats what the markets are predicting in the form of glorious financial projections for nvidia
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I am not sure the markets care about the PC. They are far more interested in AI - which seems to be this months "thing to invest in".
 
SpellowHouse said:
I am not sure the markets care about the PC. They are far more interested in AI - which seems to be this months "thing to invest in".
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its not just prices, equity researchers have built in obscene amounts into future fundamental performance.. here's data from a market aggregator, look at the revenue and EBITDA development.. though data sourced from bloomberg would be more reliable
www.marketscreener.com

NVIDIA Corporation (NVDA) Stock Price | Stock Quote Nasdaq - MarketScreener

NVIDIA Corporation (NVDA.NASDAQ): Stock quote, stock chart, quotes, analysis, advice, financials and news for Stock NVIDIA Corporation | Nasdaq: NVDA | Nasdaq
www.marketscreener.com
 
brostradamus said:
its not just prices, equity researchers have built in obscene amounts into future fundamental performance.. here's data from a market aggregator, look at the revenue and EBITDA development.. though data sourced from bloomberg would be more reliable
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Yeah but listen to this... your username is total bro'ness, Righteously dude approved !
 
Armageus said:
Only one that makes a semblance of sense is the 4060 Super, as there has already been a cut down AD104 die with those specs made (for the RTX 3500 ADA Mobile part)


(4090 Super is definitely a no go if even the Datacenter parts are leaving CUDA cores unused likely due to yields. 4070 Super and 4080 Super just seem like too significant cuts of the dies used, to be economically viable, unless yields are really that bad)
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Didn't know about that RTX3500 Ada mobile part to be fair, does make it sound a little more plausible.

But then for what Nvidia charges for workstation level parts they probably could have stuck an AD103 in there and still had a healthy margin so not sure that it's likely to be reflected in consumer desktop parts any time soon.

Great table. :D
 
brostradamus said:
its not just prices, equity researchers have built in obscene amounts into future fundamental performance.. here's data from a market aggregator, look at the revenue and EBITDA development.. though data sourced from bloomberg would be more reliable
www.marketscreener.com

NVIDIA Corporation (NVDA) Stock Price | Stock Quote Nasdaq - MarketScreener

NVIDIA Corporation (NVDA.NASDAQ): Stock quote, stock chart, quotes, analysis, advice, financials and news for Stock NVIDIA Corporation | Nasdaq: NVDA | Nasdaq
www.marketscreener.com
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JediFragger said:
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God damn AMD do something!

 
Jay85 said:
God damn AMD do something!
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AMD: "you mean a massive **** off data centre APU? We got you"

videocardz.com

AMD Instinct MI300 to be first generation exascale APU with Zen4 CPU and CDNA3 GPU - VideoCardz.com

One of the Instinct MI300 products could be AMD’s first exascale APU Earlier this month, we learned that Instinct MI300 product family from AMD will launch in many forms. This first CDNA3-based product would feature 3D stacking technology that allows AMD to provide various configurations to...
videocardz.com videocardz.com
 
SpellowHouse said:
5090 plays the game for you, so you can get out and have a real life and ONLY costs £3000
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And as an added extra for paying the extra add-on fee for DLSS 5.0 you get a remake of the classic Altered Beast game from the Sega days, on GeForce now which requires a subscription.

Thinking about it, it's all about subscription services, not just NV but from media, lease cars (like a subscription) would we ever see one of the GPU makers start a subscription service for their GPU's?
 
Jay85 said:
God damn AMD do something!
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AMD don't even have the software engineers to utilise/develop for the AI-upscale that's built into the rDNA3 architecture!!!! It's been stated that they aren't going to (not from an official source). I'm hoping that's wrong because it's *dire* if so!

****ing pathetic.
 
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Brackish said:
would we ever see one of the GPU makers start a subscription service for their GPU's?
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It could work.

4090 for £1500. Resale price after two years £800, so £700 to pay over 24 months is £30 a month.

It worked for phones, although you pay the whole phone off over the contract, I'd be more interested in the above model where you only pay half.
 
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danlightbulb said:
It could work.

4090 for £1500. Resale price after two years £800, so £700 to pay over 24 months is £30 a month.

It worked for phones, although you pay the whole phone off over the contract, I'd be more interested in the above model where you only pay half.
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You know they would charge you £50 and keep the rest for profit ;)
 
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