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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES
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What nVidia doesn't seem to have taken onboard very well IMO is that people will pay to have the best of the best, there is almost no limit to what they could sell an actual top end premium card for, what you can't do is replicate that at levels below that - a large percentage of 4090 buyers would have still bought at a higher price whereas you can't replicate that with the 4080.
Think they did take it onboard and was just testing to see how much people would pay for a 4080 when they priced it at around £1200
They already had their answers from covid with people throwing almost 2x the cost of a gpu at it. How we went from £650 to £1200 for an 80 class gpu isn't that much of a head scratcher due to that. Gave them carte blanche to double the prices.
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Yeah I agree with you on the reasoning... 24GB on 384 would have been fine for anyone that's already going to/considering buying one (the uplift in GPU perf. will be enough of a draw)
HBM would be interesting... wasn't it 1024 bit when AMD used it? (Was that big-Vega? edit: was Radeon VII and was 4096b bus!)... no idea what would be feasible with it now.
A generous take would be that nV realise how powerful it is and don't want it to be bottlenecked by VRAM in 2-4 years
more realistically, as you said above, it may be a pivot to the workstation market... for that, it'd be great if the brought back NVLINK... /cough/ @Purgatory
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And we’ll see it again with this round of GPUs, made worse by the fact that they have zero competition.
Cards will get an MSRP with AIBs adding a couple hundred on top, retailers will sell 10 at MSRP and then mysteriously every other card will be 50% more expensive. People will put up with it and then complain about high pricing.
I’m due an upgrade but will gladly wait a couple months for things to normalise.
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Tbf, the pre-super 4080 didn't sell especially well as far as I'm aware (and would take the lower RRP of the super as evidence of that!).
The Covid era shortage was a different beast, as it was also dependent on crypto pricing, which meant that the cards would pay for themselves (although wasn't guaranteed...)
I don't deny that it gave them cause to test the waters with higher pricing... and that we've settled above the middle of that range sadly.
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right now nvidia isnt really concerned about consumer sales, with a year long backlog for supercomputing equipment subject to same process constraints (TSMC 4nm) - though i think this time the launch inventory will be more substantial simply because of the delay but the supply post launch is going to be tight
Waits patiently for January the 6th ..
Sure, but back then people said: Sigh, I remember when the 70 class GPU was a great card and not being purposely gimped to be used as a cynical tool to upsell the 80 cards to the FOMO dimwits..
Not the same.
The gap between the 70 & 80 class cards was never as wide in terms of performance and price, no where near, not even close.
The gap between the reported 80 & 90 class is now a oh so cynical joke. Half the VRAM and Cuda count!
A true WTAF moment for me and I suspect many others.
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new benchmarks will be set in 2027, with the release of 60 series - 6090 will be 2.5x the performance of a 6080, nvidia is going to finish off amd's high end game in this cycle and then have the entirety of the high-end/enthusiast market to itself
They are advancing tech like no tomorrow ..
They are advancing tech like no tomorrow ..
Soldato
If the 5080 is half the price of a 5090 for above 4090 performance, that might make it the better card TBH.
I'm keeping my eye on both top end skus. Are there still any Discords that automatically show when tech is available at retailers? I think the last popular one eventually shut down.
I'm keeping my eye on both top end skus. Are there still any Discords that automatically show when tech is available at retailers? I think the last popular one eventually shut down.
Time to start a new credit card application, i wonder how many air miles i'll get with an american express if I just dump right onto a 5090? #
The wife might be happy if i can get her business class to our next destination, might sway her to be more open to hi end gaming products
#The wife might be happy if i can get her business class to our next destination, might sway her to be more open to hi end gaming products
Soldato
A GPU is a pretty good asset I've found. I sold my 4090 for £1699, early November, while I speculated it was still worth a lot. So this next upgrade isn't going to cost me much at all.