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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

Combat squirrel said:
Does a 240hrz monitor HAVE TO run at 240hrz or does running at something 'rubbish' like 120 hrs magically make it stop working? You playing ultra competitive FPS shooter death match where every 0.0001 millisecond counts? Do you work out every day and take reaction testing and training like an F1 driver does to take advantage of that fraction of a thousands of a second?

Or are you just trying to justify buying one BECAUSE you can run at 240hrz.......but in reality it wont make much difference lol

I'll be getting a 4k 240 OLED display soon.......purely because thats an actual upgrade with enormous colour accuracy and 'infinite contrast' - so thats the reason, ill still game at a lowly 100-144 hrz/FPS though, not sure how ill cope, pray for me.
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I didnt even say I was going to buy one? Im just saying having a 5090 would massively benefit me.

Regarding what I play, I play call of duty and getting high FPS in there is always a benefit. At the same time I like the game to look good - which it can at 4k and high settings.
All this time I've had to choose 1 or the other, but with a new card I can have both
 
The reviews will be obvious tbh.

Each card will be 20-35% faster than the previous gen. Each will get extra bells and whistles that are optional to use. Probably not worth upgrading if you’re already on the 40 series unless you have cash to burn, but that’s the case every gen right?

“It’s now the best, might not be worth the upgrade.”

The only real mystery is how noisy they are and I will be really miffed with more coil whine fiascos.
 
Nitefly said:
The reviews will be obvious tbh.

Each card will be 20-35% faster than the previous gen. Each will get extra bells and whistles that are optional to use. Probably not worth upgrading if you’re already on the 40 series unless you have cash to burn, but that’s the case every gen right?

“It’s now the best, might not be worth the upgrade.”

The only real mystery is how noisy they are and I will be really miffed with more coil whine fiascos.
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I'm not buying the concept of this dual slot cooler on the 5090 aye. You can't beat physics - even if the cooler is much more efficient than old designs, you will still have more heat left over than before and more heat inside the case, and that brings three issues:

1) The card is going push up from the back as much heat as it can, hundreds of watts of hot air blowing straight into your RAM and CPU cooler, hope your DDR5 RAM is not sensitive to temperature, oh wait DDR5 is temperature sensitive, oh well lol

2) The fans have to work real hard to move that heat - nowhere in the presentation was noise discussed but I believe this card will be noisy

3) Nvidia increased the max allowed temperature before throttling for the 5090 this generation, the max temp on the 5090 is now 90c. This increase in allowed temperatures is is because they know the card is going to run hotter than last gen
 
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So now we know the price of the 5090 and now you know (As I predicted haha) why you have not been able to get a 4090 at MSRP for a long time now, The most important notes to take away from that disappointing release at the high end that is no matter what Jensen says there is no chance on any planet a 5070 is going to be on par with a 4090 and neither will a 5080 in raster because the specs simply do not add up and neither does the power consumption when it is still on 4nm.

As for a 5090 vs 4090.

1. 575w vs 450w
2. GDDR7 (Will help a little not much)
3. £500 increase in cost LOL
4. And most importantly is you only have to look at the Far Cry 6 slide to see it's beginning to look like a 2080ti over a 1080ti release all over again with raw performance and a price to match.

On the whole when you deep it, It's nothing more that an OC'd 4090, To get maybe 15-30% in raster looking at Far Cry 6, I can't for the life of me think how anyone thinks this is progress when it needs 125w more power and is using an allegedly bigger die also using faster Vram than a 4090 to get that little increase in raster (Albeit still need to see full apples to apples in more titles)

All in all I am not a fake frames user and no fake graphs pull the wool over my eyes haha.
 
Grim5 said:
I'm not buying the concept of this dual slot cooler on the 5090 aye. You can't beat physics - even if the cooler is much more efficient than old designs, you will still have more heat left over than before and more heat inside the case, and that brings three issues:

1) The card is going push up from the back as much heat as it can, hundreds of watts of hot air blowing straight into your RAM and CPU cooler, hope your DDR5 RAM is not sensitive to temperature, oh wait DDR5 is temperature sensitive, oh well lol

2) The fans have to work real hard to move that heat - nowhere in the presentation was noise discussed but I believe this card will be noisy

3) Nvidia increased the max allowed temperature before throttling for the 5090 this generation, the max temp on the 5090 is now 90c. This increase in allowed temperatures is is because they know the card is going to run hotter than last gen
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Yup I’d overall expect it to run hotter than the 4090, which makes me a little hesitant with the FE. Will go with a chonker.
 
Adrian1976 said:
As for a 5090 vs 4090.

3. £500 increase in cost LOL
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Well, you basically can't buy a new 4090 at the moment unless you want to pay £2400~, so if you wanted the most powerful gpu, your only choice is to wait for the 5090.
Or if you would be happy with the 4090's performance then just buy a 5080 for £1000~
It's poor value if you look at it from where the lineup is meant to be, but it's "ok" if you take into account the actual market prices as is.
 
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I'm actually impressed with the design of the 5090, good to see they've focused on reducing the size of the GPU, was getting a little silly. We'll see how the noise and thermals are, but presume they would be mostly acceptable, the playstation and Xbox manages to be relatively powerful and be relatively silent with what would be considered as quite small coolers.

Edit: the 5070 is definitely not going to give 4090 performance without dlss, I think Nvidia should be held accountable for miss leading advertising, however despite this still impressed

I can't afford a 5090 however, but actually well done Nvidia. I'm an AMD fan boy, mostly because of the old ATI days (can't help but think they should have stayed as ATI and run independently) and in the face of what appears to be AMD completely dropping the ball seeing this I'm kinda of not surprised they changed their launch plans at the last second, they say they were never gonna launch their card this week, but I call ball pooh, they found out Nvidia plan and pooped their panties. Really disappointed with AMD, with the 6000 series launch I really thought they had finally found their place and things would only get better, unfortunately AMD seemed to have peaked with the 6000 series and it's pretty my much been downhill since.
 
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I can't cope with the amount of extra chromosome people on the internet are buying into the 5070 as fast as a 4090 bull ****

I've tried explaining how they are doing it, but they just don't get it! Wait until they go to shoot someone in online gaming, and don't realise why they can't hit anything :D

Nvidia you are genius, and your fanboys are clueless.
 
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Mike25 said:
Well, you basically can't buy a new 4090 at the moment unless you want to pay £2400~, so if you wanted the most powerful gpu, your only choice is to wait for the 5090.
Or if you would be happy with the 4090's performance then just buy a 5080 for £1000~
It's poor value if you look at it from where the lineup is meant to be, but it's "ok" if you take into account the actual market prices as is.
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Yeah that's my whole point and initial post a few days ago regarding them stopping production because they know the only way to make anything on this release was to stop selling the 4090 at MSRP because when the real raster FPS results come out it's too late as they have already stopped production and they know users would have just bought a 4090 at the high end that is.

I am more interested to see how the 5080 to 4090 compares in raster when benchies are out to point fingers about value, I mean after all it's now 2 years later since the 40x series was released, You would expect progress and quite frankly I other than all this AI Tops nonsense and DLSS 4 I am not really seeing any other than higher power consumption and the like.

I am for sure sticking with my 4090 this time around, There is just nowhere near the 50-70% claims to be had here back when rumours where first circulating but each to their own I guess.
 
As expected, there's a big premium between the 5090 and 5080 models. Do people think that the top product lasts twice as long, maybe because of the extra memory.
Is that how its turning out for the 4090?
 
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