NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

[SpellowHouse]

Is anyone else enjoying seeing since the announcement used 4090s now flooding the market, struggling to sell for £1400? Funny considering last week you could hardly find any and not gor under £1700.

I suppose £1400 is still a bit high considering in a few weeks you'll be able to get a new card that performs about the same in raster, supports new features, and has a new warranty for £1000. And the less VRAM on 5080 may turn out to not be as much a concern it looks (although I wouldn't bet any horses on that). That, and I suppose most 4090 owners are looking to upgrade to 5090.

Yes, I think that £1400 is being hopeful to say the least.

When the independent tests come in we could see that fall a fair bit. I guess people are trying to sell before then.

 

[Grim5]

Twice? Lol

Nvidia’s RTX 5090 Twice As Fast As The RTX 4090, But There’s A Catch

Nvidia has made some pretty bold performance claims for its new GeForce RTX 5090, but is it really twice as fast as the RTX 4090?

www.forbes.com

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[parisv]

Rtx3080: 29 Teraflops

Rtx4080: 49 Teraflops (68% improvement)

Rtx5080: 56 Teraflops (15% improvement)


Don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out the performance improvement from 4080 to 5080 is much, much smaller than 3080 to 4080


Right now the waters are muddied due to Nvidias marketing BS, but come review day, I'm willing to bet there is gonna be a lot of sad face unhappy review videos

Why would anyone upgrade every generation? A 93% improvement from 3080 to 5080 for £979 seems more likely.

 

[SpellowHouse]

Why would anyone upgrade every generation? A 93% improvement from 3080 to 5080 for £979 seems more likely.

I would normally upgrade every generation, because I was always needing more performance! But these days, with the advent of DLSS, I don't really need to. I am happy just turning DLSS on if I need some more frames.

 

[Grim5]

Is anyone else enjoying seeing since the announcement used 4090s now flooding the market, struggling to sell for £1400? Funny considering last week you could hardly find any and not gor under £1700.

I suppose £1400 is still a bit high considering in a few weeks you'll be able to get a new card that performs about the same in raster, supports new features, and has a new warranty for £1000. And the less VRAM on 5080 may turn out to not be as much a concern it looks (although I wouldn't bet any horses on that). That, and I suppose most 4090 owners are looking to upgrade to 5090.

as he says here in the video, the next two weeks is the best time to go buy a 4090 because idiots will sell them to you at dirt cheap prices, and then the price of the 4090 will go back up in February when people realise the 4090 is significantly faster than the 5080

 

[chaparral]

as he says here in the video, the next two weeks is the best time to go buy a 4090 because idiots will sell them to you at dirt cheap prices, and then the price of the 4090 will go back up in February when people realise the 4090 is significantly faster than the 5080

Or the 4090 price will go back up after the 5000 series gets released because no one can get hold of a 5080/5090 for 6 to 12 months

Remember Nvidia loves playing supply & demand games to keep the prices sky high

 

[Jimbo]

I'm honestly happy to stick to my 4090FE it does everything I need at 4k. I don't find it loud or it runs particularly hot or have any problems whatsoever, so I'm happy. But from what I'm gleaning around the posts it seems like there's not much of an improvement on the 50 series (benchmarks pending) and that Nvidia are investing more into dlss/frame gen than hardware. And for a grand the card should really have more than 16gb regards 4080 but as we know there will be a 4080 suoer/ti 24gb for £300/£400 more. And I can't see the 5090 being much more faster than the 4090 without its trickery and at 2 grand it's a no. I'm not judging anyone buying these after all it's your money but I just feel it's going to get found out soon enough. Reviews will be real intresting.

 

[Grim5]

I see the first 3d mark scores supposedly leaked out on chiphell forums

3D Mark Timespy Extreme: Leak shows the RTX5090 scores 22% higher than RTX4090.

That is probably one of, if not the lowest generational uplift in Timespy ever recorded for a new Nvidia flagship card

Here is some other 3D Timespy uplifts between generations

1080ti to 2080ti: 34% uplift
2080ti to 3090: 48% uplift
3090 to 4090: 73% uplift
4090 to 5090: 22% uplift

 

[harmattan]

I'm honestly happy to stick to my 4090FE it does everything I need at 4k. I don't find it loud or it runs particularly hot or have any problems whatsoever, so I'm happy. But from what I'm gleaning around the posts it seems like there's not much of an improvement on the 50 series (benchmarks pending) and that Nvidia are investing more into dlss/frame gen than hardware. And for a grand the card should really have more than 16gb regards 4080 but as we know there will be a 4080 suoer/ti 24gb for £300/£400 more. And I can't see the 5090 being much more faster than the 4090 without its trickery and at 2 grand it's a no. I'm not judging anyone buying these after all it's your money but I just feel it's going to get found out soon enough. Reviews will be real intresting.

4090 is still an exceptional card, and that won't change after Jan 30. It may not be enabled for the new-fangled features to play with, or push the envelope as far in AI, but does that really matter playing in game?

That said, I wouldn't pay more than £1200 for one at this point all things considered.

 

[parisv]

I see the first 3d mark scores supposedly leaked out on chiphell forums

3D Mark Timespy Extreme: Leak shows the RTX5090 scores 22% higher than RTX4090.

That is probably one of, if not the lowest generational uplift in Timespy ever recorded for a new Nvidia flagship card

Do you have a link to that?

 

[parisv]

John Walker Senior Director of products at Nvidia mentions at 2m27s about making it smaller without making it louder

 

[ne0]

How are 4090 owners expecting to sell second hand 4090's at anywhere near a grand? . The 5080 is clearly a better purchase even with less vram due to new compression tech. And you're getting a brand new card!!! I predict 4090's will be worth a lot less on the used market in a few weeks especially as a lot of people will be fooled by Nvidia's dodgy marketing re the 5070 which will affect the 4090 value even more. Kind of done 4090 owners a dirty really.

I'm expecting to sell my 3090 for fifty quid.

 

[Varys]

Do you have a link to that?

It's stated as a "rumour" on some chinese forums. The Speed way benchmark was also rumoured "leaked" showing a 34% uplift

 

[srekal34]

I see the first 3d mark scores supposedly leaked out on chiphell forums

3D Mark Timespy Extreme: Leak shows the RTX5090 scores 22% higher than RTX4090.

That is probably one of, if not the lowest generational uplift in Timespy ever recorded for a new Nvidia flagship card

Here is some other 3D Timespy uplifts between generations

1080ti to 2080ti: 34% uplift
2080ti to 3090: 48% uplift
3090 to 4090: 73% uplift
4090 to 5090: 22% uplift

I wouldnt pay attention to pure raster. The uplift to watch out for is PT without DLSS enabled.
Also, old games/benchmarks only tell one story. 4090 was around 60% faster than 3090 on launch. That climbed slightly to around 70% now for UE5 games, with the exception of AW2 where 4090 is 150% faster than 3090.

 

[harmattan]

I see the first 3d mark scores supposedly leaked out on chiphell forums

3D Mark Timespy Extreme: Leak shows the RTX5090 scores 22% higher than RTX4090.

That is probably one of, if not the lowest generational uplift in Timespy ever recorded for a new Nvidia flagship card

Here is some other 3D Timespy uplifts between generations

1080ti to 2080ti: 34% uplift
2080ti to 3090: 48% uplift
3090 to 4090: 73% uplift
4090 to 5090: 22% uplift

Not surprising: same node, notable but not gargantuan spec upgrade, lower clocks. Run one of the RT benches I bet would show a much rosier picture.

 

[Joxeon]

4090 is still an exceptional card, and that won't change after Jan 30. It may not be enabled for the new-fangled features to play with, or push the envelope as far in AI, but does that really matter playing in game?

That said, I wouldn't pay more than £1200 for one at this point all things considered.

In years to come the 4090 will be looked back on similarly to the 1080ti for what it delivered in terms of a generation uplift.

 

[harmattan]

In years to come the 4090 will be looked back on similarly to the 1080ti for what it delivered in terms of a generation uplift.

Different class and totally different price bracket. 4090 would better be compared to Titans of the past.

It had a good performance uplift, somewhat dire price/performance compared to 1080ti.

 

[Poneros]

The #1 benchmark I want to see for 5090 is raising ray count & steps in CP2077. I just don't understand how the uplift is so low vs 4090 given the specs, it just doesn't seem right.

 

[ICDP]

No it won’t because the uplift in price/perf was terrible. Judging against the 3090 which was also terrible is not how it will be judged.

 

[Hulk1988]

I see the first 3d mark scores supposedly leaked out on chiphell forums

3D Mark Timespy Extreme: Leak shows the RTX5090 scores 22% higher than RTX4090.

That is probably one of, if not the lowest generational uplift in Timespy ever recorded for a new Nvidia flagship card

Here is some other 3D Timespy uplifts between generations

1080ti to 2080ti: 34% uplift
2080ti to 3090: 48% uplift
3090 to 4090: 73% uplift
4090 to 5090: 22% uplift

@Grim5 Thanks for sharing. Could you also provide the link to it? Thank you