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Could it be the drivers were not ready? In any case I think we need more than one data set. I find it hard to believe that the 5090 has all it has and only achieves 22% uplift, because the power alone is increased massively.
Probably because Blackwell was built predominantly for AI with gaming only as an afterthought, AI tops is where the performance has gone.
 
I guess we will see soon enough about the uplifts of both cards.

I love the design of the FE apart from that angled connector. Makes the build look no where near as neat.


I wonder if it'll look cleaner if you can have the cable run directly in front of the 'GEFORCE RTX' branding and along the front of the card into the cable slot. It wouldn't hang down at least that way.

For me, it's a perfect place for the SFF cases I build in. It just means it can run without compromising the top panel in a vertical mount. Interested to see how thermals are though with a double blow through design, my Formd T1 might suffer a little.
 
Sounds like you've just upsold yourself into the Astral. Nice clean LED strip would look great in an Xmas setup.

I kind of sold myself RGB dragons to match the x670e Carbon Motherboard! But you are right the RGB strip is sexy, curves in all the right places. But then I also love the FE minus the angled cable.

This is going to take a lot of reflection.
 
My 4090 is definitely bottlenecking my 9800X3D in a huge way
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I could take my 4090FE to CEX today and get cash £1040 and then purchase a 5080FE but I wouldn't even consider it.
Yeah, I think £1200-1300 is the reasonable expectation. It likely will have slightly better raster and an extra 8GB VRAM, but no dlss4 and more power draw). Pawn shops like CEX will try to make margin as much as possible.
 
Yeah, I think £1200-1300 is the reasonable expectation. It likely will have slightly better raster and an extra 8GB VRAM, but no dlss4 and more power draw). Pawn shops like CEX will try to make margin as much as possible.

40-series will get all the DLSS improvements, just not MFG, which is garbage anyway.
 
Probably because Blackwell was built predominantly for AI with gaming only as an afterthought, AI tops is where the performance has gone.
This.

The 5090 feels like a work station GPU with a GeForce logo.

I'm not against this approach if it makes this gen's money meaningfully faster than last gen's money, but it doesn't look like that will happen at the top this time.

While I expect the 5080's performance to slide in under the 4090D because of export restrictions, I am optimistic that GDDR7 will do the heavy lifting for generational improvement for the 80 card.

I think the 4080 and 4080 Super are bottlenecked by memory bandwidth, so I expect increased bandwidth to provide a nice performance bump even with similar shader count.
 
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I'm not defending any of the fake frame stuff Nvidia does but you can't call something that you've known about for 24 hours 'garbage' without any actual testing...

Just my opinion of course but personally I feel it is fake frame garbage and I'll never use it. I'd rather drop settings or resolution (then use DLSS) than have fake frames.

I wouldn't use it any more than I'd enable motion interpolation on my TV.
 
4090 has 52% more CUDA cores, 5% more memory bandwidth and only a 4% lower boost clock, plus 50% more VRAM. How exactly are you expecting the 5080 to get anywhere near the 4090's raw performance?!
Even if the 4090 still beats it, like it or not, raw performance is starting to become almost irrelevant for gaming and that will influence resale value in most cases.
 
A few are coming to the conclusion that the 5080 couldn't possibly be faster than the 4090 in raster based purely on specs.

Generation to generation performance scaling is not linear. We are comparing GDDR6X vs GDDR7 here, higher clock speeds etc.

Again, we can only speculate here until we get past the fake frame AI waffle and see raster benchmarks.
 
No, Nvidia are strictly forbidding any actual FPS figures in their "early previews" and clearly directing all their shills to focus on DLSS/FG.
Tony Soprano would say "These [ ] guys..."
Just my opinion of course but personally I feel it is fake frame garbage and I'll never use it. I'd rather drop settings or resolution (then use DLSS) than have fake frames.

I wouldn't use it any more than I'd enable motion interpolation on my TV.
Oh, I agree. I would rather lower settings and run clean than run this stuff which, despite what nV promotes, you can see immediately. But people latch onto this stuff like it's magic mana and it affects demand for cards.
 
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