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parisv said:
exactly, all the negative comments seem to be coming from 4090 owners. Going from a 3090 it’s a 90-120% jump so that’s what I’ll be doing. Then I won’t upgrade to a 6090 but I won’t sit there on forums comparing about the 30% difference
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Exactly this point for me too as a 3090 owner. With most modern tech upgrading each generation seems daft now, like upgrading your phone every year doesn't make much sense these days.

But if I can go from a 3090 to a 5090 and see a near 100% improvement then I'm seriously interested in making that upgrade if I can afford to do so.

I've saved a bit of money for this purpose and I'm going try and get a 5090 on release day. Preferably a FE model.

Then unless there is some revolutionary improvement in the 6090 then I'll skip that generation and so on.
 
Cookie12 said:
Exactly this point for me too as a 3090 owner. With most modern tech upgrading each generation seems daft now, like upgrading your phone every year doesn't make much sense these days.

But if I can go from a 3090 to a 5090 and see a near 100% improvement then I'm seriously interested in making that upgrade if I can afford to do so.

I've saved a bit of money for this purpose and I'm going try and get a 5090 on release day. Preferably a FE model.

Then unless there is some revolutionary improvement in the 6090 then I'll skip that generation and so on.
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3090 to 5090 should be about 100% performance improvement
 
Grim5 said:
Very accurate, the 4090 is a bloodhound from Bloodborne and the 5070 is My Little Pony's Adventures
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Yeah, but it only has 24GB and we all know you have been wanting more.

5090 is better than a 4090 in every single way.

Maybe what you should do is like some others who apparently stick in made up stuff in their sigs. You can stick a 5090 into yours :p
 
What I'm curious about is the power draw and overclocking abilities, with the 4090, it was rated at 450W but you could flash a 600W bios onto it, now that the 5090 is already at 575W and the power cable is limited to 600W I highly suspect that it'll be a poor overclocker
 
Cookie12 said:
Exactly this point for me too as a 3090 owner. With most modern tech upgrading each generation seems daft now, like upgrading your phone every year doesn't make much sense these days.

But if I can go from a 3090 to a 5090 and see a near 100% improvement then I'm seriously interested in making that upgrade if I can afford to do so.

I've saved a bit of money for this purpose and I'm going try and get a 5090 on release day. Preferably a FE model.

Then unless there is some revolutionary improvement in the 6090 then I'll skip that generation and so on.
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Phones are changing tbh, especially in battery tech, newer phones are getting rates for 2 full days of battery on a single charge, but yeah I mostly agree, 30% isn't that great, it's from 60 to around 75/80
 
Cookie12 said:
Exactly this point for me too as a 3090 owner. With most modern tech upgrading each generation seems daft now, like upgrading your phone every year doesn't make much sense these days.

But if I can go from a 3090 to a 5090 and see a near 100% improvement then I'm seriously interested in making that upgrade if I can afford to do so.

I've saved a bit of money for this purpose and I'm going try and get a 5090 on release day. Preferably a FE model.

Then unless there is some revolutionary improvement in the 6090 then I'll skip that generation and so on.
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Same, going from a 3090 to a 5090. 4090 owners should just sit this one out and let us scoop them up!
 
DizzyZ said:
What I'm curious about is the power draw and overclocking abilities, with the 4090, it was rated at 450W but you could flash a 600W bios onto it, now that the 5090 is already at 575W and the power cable is limited to 600W I highly suspect that it'll be a poor overclocker
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+75w from pcie slot. What did the extra 150w give in performance out of interest?
 
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DizzyZ said:
What I'm curious about is the power draw and overclocking abilities, with the 4090, it was rated at 450W but you could flash a 600W bios onto it, now that the 5090 is already at 575W and the power cable is limited to 600W I highly suspect that it'll be a poor overclocker
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As Parisv said you can get a little more from the pcie slot.

However compare core count and TDP, divide the two numbers: Shows the out of the box wattage per core is exactly 0.028watts per Core for both the 4090 and 5090. That means there is no efficiency gains and both cards have been pushed as hard as each other, and we know the 4090 was pushed quite hard by Nvidia, hence the tiny overclocking headroom, so in summary, yes I concur the 5090 will have little to no OC headroom
 
Mike25 said:
Yes, but that's only going to be available in 2 games to start with - Valorant and The Finals. (I guess your chatgpt query didn't pick up on that).

I don't have a recent enough card at the moment to feel what frame-gen is actually like in those situations, going from 30 -> 60+ fps, but if it doesn't actually smooth out gameplay and only adds an additional float-y feeling to the controls, then it doesn't sound good unless you're playing something slower paced.

Also this seems to explain the "PC Latency" that Digital Foundry was banging on about...
www.nvidia.com

NVIDIA Reflex 2 Introduces Frame Warp

Reduces latency based on the game’s latest mouse input.
www.nvidia.com

How to set it up, if you have the equipment:
www.nvidia.com

How to use the NVIDIA Reflex Analyzer

Gettings started, tips, tricks, and frequently asked questions to help you get the most out of the NVIDIA Reflex Analyzer
www.nvidia.com

Then this breaks it down:
www.nvidia.com

How To Reduce Lag - A Guide To Better System Latency

Optimize end to end system latency using NVIDIA Reflex technologies, PC changes, peripheral tweaks, and more.
www.nvidia.com

So it seems like the game should be running at around 60fps ( if you look at the example where it shows latency where they're looking at the cups, and turning on DLSS halves the latency and the FPS go from 27-28 to 70~ and the latency drops to 35ms ).
I'm not entirely sure why DFs system is so slow compared to the example Nvidia showed off (maybe they were using different readings meaning they're not entirely comparable), but it's still a fairly large increase in terms of percentage (7ms would roughly be a 20% on Nvidias 35ms figure, if the Nvidia example is only using the render latency).
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From my experience, if they manage to cut 50% of the input lag, across the board, from Reflex 1 with the 2nd version, then it would take it right into native territory +/-.

Hopefully we'll get some updates for current games. Normally, future ones, if they have FG, they should have reflex 2.
 
Adrian1976 said:
I'm all for the latest tech etc but IF the 5090 leaked benchmarks are true at around 25% Any 4090 owner would have to be daft to trade a 4090 for a 5090 unless money is no object.

I think some are forgetting just because Mr Huang said 2000 US dollars that does not mean it will translate here, It potentially could be more like £2200 plus for an AIB, I wonder how many think that 25% uplift is then worth it for a £700 increase, I guess some don't care and neither do retailers or Nvidia if they sell and Nvidia certainly couldn't care less if they sell or not as they are making far too much £££ on AI accelerators to not give 2 hoots what gamers think lol.

After all Jensen is such a die hard gamer that he doesn't even know what manufacturers parts are even on his beloved gaming GPU ( Cough ) it's Samsung Vram Mr Huang not Micron haha.

Anyway as one video pointed out don't be silly and panic sell your 4090 because you will more than likely get buyers remorse.

I wonder how many bought 2080ti from the 1080ti lol.

I guess what I am trying to say is lets see how easy it is to get a 5090 this time around compared to the last few gens, If benchmarks are true and the price is horrendous as it it looking then I am willing to place bets now should retailers get the same amount as stock as previous releases that there will be 5090s in stock even for a while after with no real problem in acquiring one as I suspect most clued up users won't go near it if they have a 4090.
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I upgrade every generation as I want more performance, if raster only is a 25% improvement then so be it. I upgraded from 2x 1080 Ti's to 2x 2080 Ti's at the time and had no regrets (still don't) as I still played games that supported SLI at the time, but even a single GPU was worth it as it meant I could crank up the settings to maximum at 4K and still maintain 60fps (my screen refresh rate at the time) which a single 1080 Ti couldn't do in some newer titles around that time.

I will be upgrading to the 5090 from the 4090 because I want more RT performance, and when it comes to path tracing, every frame is needed to reach 120fps+. If I sell my current one and make about a £1k back or close to it, and I go for the FE at MSRP then it's about a £1K upgrade, that £1k spanned over two years until the next generation of say 50 months time works out at about £20 a month, and as far as I'm concerned that's worth it as I don't drink or smoke which costs a hell of a lot more than that a month.
 
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Starting to get the upgrade itch although nothing I play currently is really struggling, I can always donate the 3080ti to my boy who currently has a 3060ti, the question is do I just go the whole hog and go 5090, remember buying the 3080ti for over 1k and thought I was nuts
 
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