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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

Adrian1976 said:
o for allegedly 20-30% bump in performance what the hell has Nvidia been doing for R&D for the last 2 years because I am struggling to see anything at all other than Frame gen crap which I have no interest in.
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2 years of training AI models for the new frame gen.

I guess that's where all the R&D will go now.

Shame games can't do the same to fix their performance
 
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arknor said:
google tells me a 4090 gets 200fps with dlss at 4k , supreme preset ray tracing on
108fps without dlss.

It's not really an example of a game people need to upgrade for.
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Maybe I should have said PT then? It is prime example.
 
ICDP said:
If you have a 4090 do you sell and upgrade for the best part of £1000? I suspect the 5080 will be only a touch slower than a 4080 and will have those extra Nvidia sauce features people love. This does make a 4090 a hard sell at anything approaching £1000.
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I repeat what that derbauer guy said, people should not do stupid things like sell their 4090.
 
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Maybe 16gb vram isn't enough going forward, we already see Indiana Jones using about 19gb at 4k path tracing. 2 years is a long time in game development
 
TNA said:
Yeah, if you sold your house (or your parents) :cry:
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Lucky buggers owning property... meanwhile the rest of us here are getting shafted by landlords taking the Nvidia approach with rent.
But hey, what is too little to buy a roof is enough to buy GPUs. Heck it's probably cheaper to build a hut out of 5090 boxes, unless one lives pretty far from the pricey south/capital :cry:

CuriousTomCat said:
The 5080 and below are for ordinary people. I'm an average earner so I just focus on average priced items. A low earner might think the things I buy are crazy. Its all relative.
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Over-estimating ordinary folks with the 5080 there, there's a reason why the most popular GPUs being sold are the x60 tiers.
A decade ago none of the ordinary folks could afford a £1k Titan and I don't think things have improved since.
It's surprisingly shocking how low average wages are, it literally doesn't add up how folks can afford just living costs.
Are there really that many adults living with parents, with big families (all contributing to costs) or just renting rooms in shared houses?
I guess there must be...

Speaking of ordinary people... no rumour, leaks or even a peep regarding 5060. Maybe this time Nvidia is waiting for AMD before deciding to make folks pay too much for 8GB VRAM and neglible performance increase again?

Or they'll probably spin it as "faster than a 16GB card! *with fake AI frames"
 
BS Dave said:
Isn't the 5080 the full die though? They can only give it more and faster memory
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They'll spend a year farming imperfect GB202 dies. GB202 is massive, the likelihood of a defect goes up massively the bigger the die.

The 5090 will also stop selling in large numbers by then.
 
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muon said:
They'll spend a year farming imperfect GB202 dies. GB202 is massive, the likelihood of a defect goes up massively the bigger the die.

The 5090 will also stop selling in large numbers by then.
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That's why the 3080Ti was launched.

Back in late 2020 and early 2021, when chip supply was awful, they prioritised the 3090, making sure they milked everyone who was prepared to pay double the price of a 3080 just to get a GPU.

Just when the supply was easing and they should have been able to produce more 3080s, they created the 3080Ti at nearly the price of the 3090 to milk even more people.
 
arknor said:
you know all of us who own a 4090, that have been telling ya'll for the last 2 years we can see a difference between RT/PT and baked in raster...

are going to tell you there's no visual difference now right :D
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Huh? I never said anything about not being able to see the difference?

Not sure how we jumped from me saying the game is demanding according people like mrk and people in the Indiana Jones thread here when using PT (yes I said RT by mistake) to me not being able to see the difference?
 
TNA said:
Huh? I never said anything about not being able to see the difference?
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It's a thing people were doing with the 4090 since it came out.

people who don't own one argued RT/PT is worthless and there's barely a difference if a raster game is done properly.
those who had it argued the opposite.,

Now I guess the rolls reverse.
 
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arknor said:
It's a thing people were doing with the 4090 since it came out.

people who don't own one argued RT/PT is worthless and there's barely a difference if a raster game is done properly.
those who had it argued the opposite.,

Now I guess the rolls reverse.
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But what does that have to do with what I am saying? I never said anything of the sort?
 
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muon said:
They'll spend a year farming imperfect GB202 dies. GB202 is massive, the likelihood of a defect goes up massively the bigger the die.

The 5090 will also stop selling in large numbers by then.
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I get what you mean. i'd have called it a 5080ti but it's just names. I fondly remember my 980ti and that was a cut down bigger die, was there a 2080super?. Swore i'd never speed over £500 again as that was mental! To be fair I soent £450 on a 2nd hand pascal titan and £650 on a 3080 so i haven't done badly
 
Based on speculation about an increase in capacity of DDR7 RAM chips (going from the current 2GB per chip up to 3GB), it's more likely that the main
"5080ti" spec bump will be an increase in VRAM (16gb to 24gb). To be honest, I don't think a $1000 GPU in 2025 should still only come with 16GB. Be interesting to see how the 5080 sells.
 
For the past few releases, 30 40 and now the 50

each generation had a massive impact on prices as soon as the new gen was released, this time Im thinking if the 5090 aftermarkets RRP at 2300 average and 2500 for the top end and 2900 for the ultra end cards then the 4090 wont have much of a price dip for what it is as the current going of average 1400 used is an good price

and if Nvidia are the only people to sell FE for RRP then they will instant sell out because every 5090 buyer will want a FE for £1939 vs the 2300+ from aftermarket resellers

I can only imagine the scalpers selling FE for a cool +300 or more, its so hard to buy directly from Nvidia, u just have to be lucky to get it when its in stock.
 
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