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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

Well was thinking/hoping to get the 5080, but looking at the forecasted possible performance “increase” I’m unsure now.

For anyone like me coming from the higher mid-end like a 4070Ti Super I’m kinda of stuck in a middle ground. As the 5080 would possibly be a 20-30% jump maybe, with the same vram. But even the 9070XT is looking likely to match a 4070Ti so that’s not really an option.

The only viable way to upgrade is a used 4090, but to pay £1000+ for card well over 2 year old with no warranty just sounds insane.
Lots of 4090s still have warranty.. i got mine on release and still have just under 2 years left. Im sure as well there is plenty that have been purchased more recently that have even longer warranty.. Most of the big name AIB's allow transfer of warranty as it's tied to the card not the original purchaser.

Just depends how comfortable you are spending that sort of money in the 2nd hand market.
 
Well was thinking/hoping to get the 5080, but looking at the forecasted possible performance “increase” I’m unsure now.

For anyone like me coming from the higher mid-end like a 4070Ti Super I’m kinda of stuck in a middle ground. As the 5080 would possibly be a 20-30% jump maybe, with the same vram. But even the 9070XT is looking likely to match a 4070Ti so that’s not really an option.

The only viable way to upgrade is a used 4090, but to pay £1000+ for card well over 2 year old with no warranty just sounds insane.
How come you bought a 4070ti super in the first instance if you felt the performance wasn’t enough and you’d need to upgrade after only a year?
 

A nice summary of the prices seen so far. Not to sound depressing, but pretty much all the UK prices (placeholder or not) I have seen are even worse than those in the article. I hope they align nearer launch...
 
How can we be sure though. You said you won't buy it then you will buy it, then you won't buy it :p

Also you yourself was super excited about maxing out your 240hz display :D

I follow science, science always gathers new evidence and the hypothesis then needs adjusting until the end-time comes where the science is tried and tested, aka where we are imminently.
 
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I follow science, science always gathers new evidence and the hypothesis then needs adjusting until the end-time comes where the science is tried and tested, aka where we are imminently.

Didn't know what comes out of Jensens mouth was science. I always took it as marketing that comes up with lines like the more you buy the more you save.

Yet when he was talking he had you wetting your pants :p
 
How come you bought a 4070ti super in the first instance if you felt the performance wasn’t enough and you’d need to upgrade after only a year?
I bought the card early last year just after I built my pc, it’s not that I’m looking to upgrade but just looking to the future. With games like Indiana Jones pushing the card and that a new gen of card may provide a good whack of performance increase, I was keeping my options open. Also the card I have is 2nd hand and was looking as then a new card would have warranty just for security.

As it stands I probably won’t be changing card, but for anyone thinking about it from that sort of card, the options aren’t great.
 
When you use 2x frame gen to get to 165 on your monitor, your base rate is actually dropping to around 82fps to stay within the monitors refresh rate (with vsync on). If you used MFG 4X to get to 165fps, the base rate will be only around 42fps which will not feel good at all.

Those who want 400fps in a game are usually playing competitively and require the lowest latency. MFG will not give that since at 400fps the base rate will be around 100fps.
2X frame gen should be the max you should use for any monitor less than 240Hz.
I'd love to finally have mouse cursor and windows move in Windows without any visible trailing :D Like I remember having it on Amiga on CRT in Workbench :D We're like 30 years into the future now and it's still not even close. :) Maybe 400Hz+ in Windows will help! :D Ona bit more serious note, motion clarity matter too and that's peaking out at about 1kHz, so we're still not even half way to that. Also, I was quite confident FG is being adjusted live and enables itself only when it makes sense, after peaking the vsync FPS, skipping some frames instead of lowering input FPS (that would be mean backpressure on the engine, adding even more latency). That COULD explain some weird latency spikes I see now and then with FG. Need to dig deeper into that. :)
 
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Considering the 5000 series is still using the 4NM node as the 4000 series, were people unrealistically expecting a big generational uplift in performance?

This seems more and more like a refresh range of cards with nvidia relying on AI and software to mitigate the low percentage performance increase.

I suspect the real uplift will be the 6000 series and a node shrink.
 
Hi

Just to confirm. This is the cable I should use to pair a 5090 with a Corsair HX1000 PSU (i've looked and I dont think OC sell it?)


Thank you.
 
Hi

Just to confirm. This is the cable I should use to pair a 5090 with a Corsair HX1000 PSU (i've looked and I dont think OC sell it?)


Thank you.
Believe so. What I bought in 2022 looks identical to that, except the new cable is is now Type 5 and 12V-2x6.
 
Hi

Just to confirm. This is the cable I should use to pair a 5090 with a Corsair HX1000 PSU (i've looked and I dont think OC sell it?)


Thank you.
No. That's a Corsair Type 5 cable.

Looking at this page:


The HX1000 is a Type 4 PSU. So you need a type 4 cable.

Such as this one:

 
From my perspective, seems like the ideal time for a new monitor with the new DP2.1 standards meaning we can max out 240fps on an OLED with no DSC :)

I’ll be ordering the PG27UCDM as soon as that becomes available.
That thought occured to me this morning. A new OLED would be a heck of a better experience improvement for the cost in any case from my Gigabyte 32" 144hz IPS over a measly ~34% more graphics performance. Got my eye on that, or a squat sled with the money I'm "saving" not buying a 5090.
 
That thought occured to me this morning. A new OLED would be a heck of a better experience improvement for the cost in any case from my Gigabyte 32" 144hz IPS over a measly ~34% more graphics performance. Got my eye on that, or a squat sled with the money I'm "saving" not buying a 5090.
You'd discover true HDR in games and that was always WAY bigger improvement to me than just FPS. :)
 
Considering the 5000 series is still using the 4NM node as the 4000 series, were people unrealistically expecting a big generational uplift in performance?

This seems more and more like a refresh range of cards with nvidia relying on AI and software to mitigate the low percentage performance increase.

I suspect the real uplift will be the 6000 series and a node shrink.

4000 series (TSMC 5nm) had two classes of node shrink compared to 3000 series (Samsung 8nm, more like TSMC 10nm), uplifts were minimal too.
 
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