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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

The only review I'm looking forward to is gamers nexus all the other sites will talk it up ..it's gonna be a good read

The impression I get from reviewers generally right now is that outside of "winning by default" because of raw performance alone, people are getting sick of Nvidia's scummy behaviour. From trying to quietly downgrade memory on cards being actively sold, to their constant price gouging and bad value price-to-performance, they don't seem to be in many people's good books.

I think everyone is champing at the bit to rip them a new one and "correct" them because of the whole "5070 as good as a 4090" debacle.
 
If (… if!) the 5090 is 30% more powerful than the 4090… its base price is basically 30% more?

Ignoring all the fake frame stuff it’s then not ‘better value’… but it’s not worse value either.


No the 5090 is much better value.

4090 released October 2022 for £1699
5090 released January 2025 for £1939
Price difference £240

With inflation £1699 in Oct 2022 is worth £1894 today (Bank of England Inflation calculator) so true price difference between 4090 & 5090 is £45
The 5090 is 33% more powerful than 4090 (source Videocardz)

Therefore 5090 is 33% better in raster gen on gen than the 4090 for 2% increased price, in addition to which you get all the new gen's features.
 
No the 5090 is much better value.

4090 released October 2022 for £1699
5090 released January 2025 for £1939
Price difference £240

With inflation £1699 in Oct 2022 is worth £1894 today (Bank of England Inflation calculator) so true price difference between 4090 & 5090 is £45
The 5090 is 33% more powerful than 4090 (source Videocardz)

Therefore 5090 is 33% better in raster gen on gen than the 4090 for 2% increased price, in addition to which you get all the new gen's features.

I mean, sure. I was just rounding up/down.

We’re not sure if it’s 33% better or not yet. Probably in the 25-35% range, we’ll see!
 
No the 5090 is much better value.

4090 released October 2022 for £1699
5090 released January 2025 for £1939
Price difference £240

With inflation £1699 in Oct 2022 is worth £1894 today (Bank of England Inflation calculator) so true price difference between 4090 & 5090 is £45
The 5090 is 33% more powerful than 4090 (source Videocardz)

Therefore 5090 is 33% better in raster gen on gen than the 4090 for 2% increased price, in addition to which you get all the new gen's features.
That is if you are looking at it in an idealistic way.

It doesn't mean that someones wages have increased the same as what inflation has.. value for money completely depends on each persons circumstance.
 
That is if you are looking at it in an idealistic way.

It doesn't mean that someones wages have increased the same as what inflation has.. value for money completely depends on each persons circumstance.
It's a 14% increase, so you'd be alright if you've had a couple of decent pay rises since 2022, I'd suggest most people haven't had this sort of pay rise though.
 
Its called getting poorer as a country. :(
It's called getting poorer as a human on planet Earth (while .01% of us have gotten richer). We're vastly, mostly in this together :)

I've beat inflation very marginally, thankfully, after busting my sweet patootee. But 2000 (more likely 2200-2600+) clams for a video game toy is a hard pill to swallow. One of the great things with this hobby was, ever 2-3 years, for the past 30 years, you could expect notable advancement, even and especially at the top end -- that's not the case here.
 
No the 5090 is much better value.

4090 released October 2022 for £1699
5090 released January 2025 for £1939
Price difference £240

With inflation £1699 in Oct 2022 is worth £1894 today (Bank of England Inflation calculator) so true price difference between 4090 & 5090 is £45
The 5090 is 33% more powerful than 4090 (source Videocardz)

Therefore 5090 is 33% better in raster gen on gen than the 4090 for 2% increased price, in addition to which you get all the new gen's features.
My 4090FE was £1599
 
It's called getting poorer as a human on planet Earth (while .01% of us have gotten richer). We're vastly, mostly in this together :)

I've beat inflation very marginally, thankfully, after busting my sweet patootee. But 2000 (more likely 2200-2600+) clams for a video game toy is a hard pill to swallow. One of the great things with this hobby was, ever 2-3 years, for the past 30 years, you could expect notable advancement, even and especially at the top end -- that's not the case here.
A lot of people in the UK actually earn 15-20% less than their European counterparts (same job etc) and if you look at median wealth rather than mean that's lower as well.
 
A lot of people in the UK actually earn 15-20% less than their European counterparts (same job etc) and if you look at median wealth rather than mean that's lower as well.
It was striking to me as an American who also lived and worked in France as to how much poorer people generally are here in the UK. And by "poorer" I mean on an absolute income and wealth basis, but also on a PPP level. A lot more disposable income in other countries/regions to buy toys like this, and when you hear about the UK being a "small" market, it's not just based on relative population.
 
No the 5090 is much better value.

4090 released October 2022 for £1699
5090 released January 2025 for £1939
Price difference £240

With inflation £1699 in Oct 2022 is worth £1894 today (Bank of England Inflation calculator) so true price difference between 4090 & 5090 is £45
The 5090 is 33% more powerful than 4090 (source Videocardz)

Therefore 5090 is 33% better in raster gen on gen than the 4090 for 2% increased price, in addition to which you get all the new gen's features.

In short, we are back to best value. :p

It was striking to me as an American who also lived and worked in France as to how much poorer people generally are here in the UK. And by "poorer" I mean on an absolute income and wealth basis, but also on a PPP level. A lot more disposable income in other countries/regions to buy toys like this, and when you hear about the UK being a "small" market, it's not just based on relative population.

The population sizes of both the countries you mention are very close. Maybe we get shafted more than people living here realise...
 
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If I can get a FE then I'm tempted to just stick it on a credit card and worry about it later but it's the thought of having to drop another £150 on a 1000W PSU that's annoying me for some reason. :D

Then my mobo is only PCIE 4 and that'll annoy me as well and before you know it I'm just building a new PC.
 

No the 5090 is much better value.

4090 released October 2022 for £1699
5090 released January 2025 for £1939
Price difference £240

With inflation £1699 in Oct 2022 is worth £1894 today (Bank of England Inflation calculator) so true price difference between 4090 & 5090 is £45
The 5090 is 33% more powerful than 4090 (source Videocardz)

Therefore 5090 is 33% better in raster gen on gen than the 4090 for 2% increased price, in addition to which you get all the new gen's features.
It’s not that straightforward, you’ve missed the effect of exchange rates, which is what drove all the 4090 FE price changes. That’s why its price fell £100 just a month or two after launch to £1599, and subsequently to £1519. Thanks to Reeves the £ is down against the $ (most important exchange rate), so that £1,939 MSRP may actually be nearer £1,999 for AIB cards, whether Nvidia adjusts their FE price or not.
 
It was striking to me as an American who also lived and worked in France as to how much poorer people generally are here in the UK. And by "poorer" I mean on an absolute income and wealth basis, but also on a PPP level. A lot more disposable income in other countries/regions to buy toys like this, and when you hear about the UK being a "small" market, it's not just based on relative population.
Just think of the London and the South East as its own country and everything is good again. :D

I suspect inequality in the UK is worse than France, which exacerbates things. The ‘small market’ point varies greatly depending on the sector. The UK is one of the top markets for supercar sales for example, in some cases beating China for certain brands. By many measures it is not a small market, so i somewhat disagree with that point. More generally, the large tax burden doesn’t help either…
 
No the 5090 is much better value.

4090 released October 2022 for £1699
5090 released January 2025 for £1939
Price difference £240

With inflation £1699 in Oct 2022 is worth £1894 today (Bank of England Inflation calculator) so true price difference between 4090 & 5090 is £45
The 5090 is 33% more powerful than 4090 (source Videocardz)

Therefore 5090 is 33% better in raster gen on gen than the 4090 for 2% increased price, in addition to which you get all the new gen's features.
quite a few risky assumptions there, can you can point anyone to a 5090 for £1939 other than an Nvidia employee? :cry:
 
It was striking to me as an American who also lived and worked in France as to how much poorer people generally are here in the UK. And by "poorer" I mean on an absolute income and wealth basis, but also on a PPP level. A lot more disposable income in other countries/regions to buy toys like this, and when you hear about the UK being a "small" market, it's not just based on relative population.

Americans have no paid holidays, and if you break your leg it costs £100k for an x-ray and a pot. Europeans are probably better off
 
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