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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

jonneymendoza said:
Correct me if am wrong but from 3090 to 4090 there was a 95% Rasta improvement?

And for 4090 to 5090, we could see around 25% improvement meaning from 3090 to 5090 I could see 115% improvement in Rasta?
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I calculated it as a 105% increase in avg FPS from the 3090 to 5090, based on 4090 performance and a 30% jump to the 5090. This was at 1440p native, (also the 4k DLSS Balance upscale res).
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Do you think the 16gb cards are fine for some 4k gaming here and there but mostly messing around with AI apps etc..? I haven't gamed properly in years, lost some interest.. but still like messing with programs, might be one or two games I'll try at some point though.
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Honestly I’m really not sure, only you can gauge it based on your use case and budget etc.

All I can say is I do think the whole “16gb is too small for gaming” stuff is WAY overstated. Just like how you don’t have to run Indy Jones with path tracing, you don’t need to run a high texture pack that nukes your v-ram. Ditto, not that many people play around with VR.

Other AI and work stuff, I’m not sure so don’t have an opinion.

zoffster1 said:
I'll think about it once I've seen reviews but given the very modest increases the leaks are showing and the prices being asked I'm considering giving this gen a skip. Maybe I'll upgrade my laptop instead.
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It’s worth thinking about it with reference to your existing gear. If you’re rocking a 1440p monitor you can max out with an existing card then, really, what is the point?

I bought a 4090 because my 3090 couldn’t max out 120fps on my TV. I returned the 4090 for other reasons (noisy), but I’m going into this launch still not being able to max out that TV or, more importantly, the 240hz 4k monitor I’m also planning to buy.

If you’re running crazy frames at 1080p or 1440p then you might be better off with a new CPU. And so on.
 
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Nitefly said:
It’s worth thinking about it with reference to your existing gear. If you’re rocking a 1440p monitor you can max out with an existing card then, really, what is the point?

I bought a 4090 because my 3090 couldn’t max out 120fps on my TV. I returned the 4090 for other reasons (noisy), but I’m going into this launch still not being able to max out that TV or, more importantly, the 240hz 4k monitor I’m also planning to buy.

If you’re running crazy frames at 1080p or 1440p then you might be better off with a new CPU. And so on.
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I've got an ultrawide monitor that amounts to 2x4k screens. My 4090 stuggles with this so was hoping for a 5090 to improve the situation but if we're talking 20-30% gains it will still struggle so don't see much point if that is the case. Frame gen is in my opinion not a good solution for this as if you are really generating <30 fps (as shown in their demo), it doesn't matter how many fake frames you pump out, you're still dealing with a game that feels like it's running slow and laggy, regardless of how smooth it appears.
 
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zoffster1 said:
I've got an ultrawide monitor that amounts to 2x4k screens. My 4090 stuggles with this so was hoping for a 5090 to improve the situation but if we're talking 20-30% gains it will still struggle so don't see much point if that is the case. Frame gen is in my opinion not a good solution for this as if you are really generating <30 fps (as shown in their demo), it doesn't matter how many fake frames you pump out, you're still dealing with a game that feels like it's running slow and laggy, regardless of how smooth it appears.
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Well, it depends… it’s flexible.

You could run at 80fps and use 3x frame gen to get close to 240fps, for example.

Or, you could run at 120fps and use 4x frame to get close to 480fps.

Is it better to run with or without frame gen? Well, that also depends on your preferences and also initial resolution. The upscaling tech is best suited for 4k rather than 1440p as if your upscaling from 480p or whatever to 1440p it’s going to look poo.

How bad will the latency be when turning in frame gen when already running at 120fps? I don’t know, but you could get an idea by trying 2x frame gen on a 40 series card. Going up to 2x or 4x isn’t expected to add a significant penalty beyond 2x.
 
opethdisciple said:
What I want to know is if this RTX mega geometry is coming to other cards other than the 5000 series?
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Tsk didn't even read the TL;DR of the very link you posted???!

TL;DR: NVIDIA unveiled RTX Neural Shaders, enhancing rendering with AI, including RTX Mega Geometry for detailed ray-traced scenes. At CES 2025, demos showed impressive results in games like Alan Wake 2, which will receive updates for improved performance and image quality. These features will be available to all GeForce RTX users.
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Although it completely sucks thats a review embargo lifts at launch for the 5080, if you are considering one just place your order and you are more than likely just going to end up in a pre-order queue so you can just cancel it.

If you are extremely lucky and do manage to get one on release day then if the reviews dont meet your expectations then either refuse/return the card or sell it (i dont mean for a scalped price, just what you paid and the cost of postage) which many people here would probably snap your arm off for.
 
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zoffster1 said:
I've got an ultrawide monitor that amounts to 2x4k screens. My 4090 stuggles with this so was hoping for a 5090 to improve the situation but if we're talking 20-30% gains it will still struggle so don't see much point if that is the case. Frame gen is in my opinion not a good solution for this as if you are really generating <30 fps (as shown in their demo), it doesn't matter how many fake frames you pump out, you're still dealing with a game that feels like it's running slow and laggy, regardless of how smooth it appears.
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i think you may have the same monitor as me the samsung g9 57 inch when you said the 2x4k screens makes me think it is and this is the reason why i plan to upgrade from my 4090 also, you have to remember that the higher the resolution the more of the workload you are normally putting on to the gpu so i think those of us that game at the higher resolutions over the 4k threshold this card is more beneficial to us, it allows me for the first time to unlock the 7680x2160 at 240hz also as i am currently locked to 120hz at that resolution due to the display port version on 4000 series, i think if you are a below 4k gamer and already have a 4080 or 4090 then i really dont think going for a 5000 series card makes much sense
 
Matthew Hunt said:
I would be surprised if the 5080 beats a 4090.
The 4090 was an absolute beast of a card when released the previous 3090 wasn't so much.
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on raw rasterization performance it definitely wont beat it but with the full dlss benefits exclusive to the 5000 series then it would most likely go to the 5080 so id say in games that are to be released going forward will prob run better on 5080 as most of the devs will make more and more use of dlss as it allows them to not have there games the most optomised as they know dlss will help cover the performance drop anyways
 
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