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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

Yes Optimum and Daniel Owen were both impressed enough, even with the visual artifacts to say they'd use it for single player games over a lower frame rate.

Yeah it does seem promising how much better it is than the DLSS3 version… how good it is will depend how annoying / distracting the artefacts are… which is probably going to be game dependant.

PC Centric (the forum favourite :o :p ) suggested that Black Myth Wukong had loads of artefacting and looked bad because of the ‘hair / fur’.
 
Yeah it does seem promising how much better it is than the DLSS3 version… how good it is will depend how annoying / distracting the artefacts are… which is probably going to be game dependant.

PC Centric (the forum favourite :o :p ) suggested that Black Myth Wukong had loads of artefacting and looked bad because of the ‘hair / fur’.

I'm going to be doing a lot of don't care playing at 480Hz posts this year :D ;)
 
As pointed out by a couple reviews, the issue with MFG 4x just like the old frame gen, is it only makes sense to use when you already have a high framerate due to the latency. Using MFG to turn 30fps into 120fps feels horrible.




Anyway, here is PCIE scaling test. Basically don't worry about it - if you use the 5090 on a pcie4 motherboard you only lose 0.5% performance

 
So I've seen a couple of places say reviewers were asked to test on 240mhz monitors and apparently the gains are not as good on screens with refresh rates lower than this. I have no idea why this would be.
 
Thanks buddy - watching now.

Yeah, seems like it’s really good when your base FPS is high. So I’m thinking… 80fps base and going for 3x of the frame gen. Maybe!

Yeah I'm surprised how impressed both of them were, from the framerates they were scaling from to be honest. Especially with optimum being very picky, I guess it gets a little forgiveness for being an experimental technology, that at least performs really well in CP2077.

Hopefully the same can be said for most of the other 75 games
As pointed out by a couple reviews, the issue with MFG 4x just like the old frame gen, is it only makes sense to use when you already have a high framerate due to the latency. Using MFG to turn 30fps into 120fps feels horrible.




Anyway, here is PCIE scaling test. Basically don't worry about it - if you use the 5090 on a pcie4 motherboard you only lose 0.5% performance


Yeah, to be fair this was always going to be the case, which is why the 5090 is likely the 4K monitor choice and 5080 the 1440p monitor choice, but let's see this time next week.

So I've seen a couple of places say reviewers were asked to test on 240mhz monitors and apparently the gains are not as good on screens with refresh rates lower than this. I have no idea why this would be.
CPU bottlenecks or something else? cos I kept hearing CPU bottlenecks, oh apparently you were talking about MFG then yes so MFG would perform with less latency.
 
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So I've seen a couple of places say reviewers were asked to test on 240mhz monitors and apparently the gains are not as good on screens with refresh rates lower than this. I have no idea why this would be.

I suppose it’s for the reason that @Grim5 mentioned: having 30fps and doing x4 MFG is going to be horrid because your starting point is too low.

So your monitor needs to have a really high refresh rate in order to make use of the multiplier.
 
I suppose it’s for the reason that @Grim5 mentioned: having 30fps and doing x4 MFG is going to be horrid because your starting point is too low.

So your monitor needs to have a really high refresh rate in order to make use of the multiplier.

True but also we know this card sucks at anything under 4k. So that suggests MFG works best on a 4k monitor, and you already have a high framerate and then you enable mfg to get 400fps or whatever, now we just need 400hz monitors to make use of the feature
 
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True but also we know this card sucks at anything under 4k. So that suggests MFG works best on a 4k monitor, and you already have a high framerate and then you enable mfg to get 400fps or whatever, now we just need 400hz monitors to make use of the feature

Yup I think the highest 4k you can get right now is 240fps. So the x4 MFG can’t really be used to its potential. I’ll give x2-3 a whirl though.
 
:cry:

if this card is true then its gonna be at least £7000 or more based on the 48GB Ada6000 card, pretty sure 8 of these in a 4u for rendering is about 200k
 
It's looking like the 5090 will provide a pretty substantial boost in pure raster over my 7900 XTX, I guess that somewhat lessens the blow of the price whatever it may be and considering that I'm going to be using it for non gaming workloads as well, I just hope I'll be able to snag an FE. If not I'll just place a pre order for the one that I want with Ocuk and just wait for them to ship it out whenever they get it.
 
Saw this on Nvidia subreddit for MSI RRP:
  • Prices: RTX 5080
  • MSI Shadow 3x OC (Black) - $1119.99
  • MSI Ventus 3x OC Plus (Black)- $1139.99
  • MSI Ventus 3X OC (WHITE) - $1149.99
  • MSI Inspire 3X OC (Gold) - $1169.99
  • MSI GAMING TRIO OC (White) - $1199.99
  • MSI GAMING TRIO OC (Black) - $1199.99
  • MSI VANGUARD SOC (Black) - $1229.99
  • MSI SUPRIM SOC (Black) - $1249.99
  • MSI SUPRIM LIQUID SOC (Black) - $1299.99

  • Prices: RTX 5090
  • MSI Ventus 3x OC Plus (Black)- $2199.99
  • MSI GAMING TRIO OC (Black) - $2349.99
  • MSI VANGUARD SOC (Black) - $2379.99
  • MSI SUPRIM SOC (Black) - $2399.99
  • MSI SUPRIM LIQUID SOC (Black) - $2499.99
all we need to do is remove the $ and replace with £ and there you have it, UK prices
 
Will existing cards (Rtx 3000 /4000) get the multi frame generation tech that’s in the 5000 series?

Are there any features exclusive to the RTX 5000?
 
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Have any reviewers mentioned under-volting and how much it affects performance? Hoping for results as good as a 4090 at 70%.

Undervolting will be your friend this generation

This review tested undervolting in one game, so more needed please but results are quite decent

RTX5090 default power profile: 133fps and 575w used

Manual undervolt 0.970v: 133fps, 490w used

Manual undervolt 0.900v: 125fps 410w used

Manual undervolt 0.875v: 115fps 350w used


So at least in this one game, you can cut power consumption by 85watts and lose no performance and if you're happy to lose 5% performance you can cut power by 165watts. But remember with the 0.9v undervolt, the performance lost now means the 5090 is only 25% faster than the 4090

 
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