NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

BS Dave · 2025-01-23T22:01:13+0000

YT algorithm favours longer videos and shorts. That's what they're so long

TheRealDeal · 2025-01-23T22:14:32+0000

As expected with no node shink it's very underwheming with an even more rubbish price increase. You can see by the power increase it's very much the same architectue they have stuck with and a bump in everything that matters. If Nvidia brought this at 4090 pricing i doubt many woud bat an eyelid. There is literally no bump in price performance v the 4090 which is terrible as top end gaming which seems to be getting further away every gen for those that ain't rich or with some common sense. On an engineering front with no node drops i am sure it's a great leap and impressive.

It's ok though as we all game on $10k battlestations. Lucky if i got a Grand for mine lol. Maybe with a good hoovering out.

Grim5 · 2025-01-23T22:14:57+0000

markymoo said:
I wonder if the A.I can get to a point to auto adjust volts.
If the machine learning can work out frames so quickly, maybe it's possible that it can drop the volts when needed.
Maybe even if they machine learn together and create an online data base for what games require what power at certain stages in the game, so that it avoids any stutter from quick changes.

For instance I game 4k and 120fps is my max.
Maybe on those games if it can generate more, it can just lower the volts to save on energy, heat and the lifetime of the components.
Also Auto frame generation whereby if you max a set power requirement the card can dynamically set if Grame generation is required and by how much in order for best quality and energy consumption based on the users fps requirements.

I thought Nvidia said rtx5000 had some new power optimizations but I guess it's not this. If a GPU can auto adjust to the lowest possible stable voltage for a given framerate that would be awesome, imagine how much power globally that would save

jonneymendoza · 2025-01-23T22:15:39+0000

This is a really good unique revierw that touches on things that otehrs have not!!

@TNA @Noxia @mrk

Grim5 · 2025-01-23T22:17:35+0000

jonneymendoza said:
This is a really good unique revierw that touches on things that otehrs have not!!

@TNA @Noxia @mrk

Were in the age where CPUs now bottleneck GPUs at 4k

And no one can claim Steve from HUB did not predict this because he's been shouting from the roof tops, everytime someone claimed that testing CPus at 1080p was pointless, now those people who listened to Steve would have better performance at 4k on a 5090, and those who didn't listen will suffer from lower framerates at 4k as a result

Raiden85 · 2025-01-23T22:20:16+0000

Time for 8K gaming

parisv · 2025-01-23T22:22:22+0000

jonneymendoza said:
This is a really good unique revierw that touches on things that otehrs have not!!

@TNA @Noxia @mrk

I was just watching this also. Sound doesn’t too far off 4090 but some other reviews suggest otherwise?

harmattan · 2025-01-23T22:25:50+0000

Sparky said:
Not if you post it back as a gift

50/50 they'll catch it, lots and lots of experience here. And nowadays very real possibility of it getting "lost" (and insurance cost will negate money saved). You still need to declare on value and if you're not truthful and it's caught, you'll pay thousands.

jonneymendoza · 2025-01-23T22:27:23+0000

Grim5 said:
Were in the age where CPUs now bottleneck GPUs at 4k

And no one can claim Steve from HUB did not predict this because he's been shouting from the roof tops, everytime someone claimed that testing CPus at 1080p was pointless, now those people who listened to Steve would have better performance at 4k on a 5090, and those who didn't listen will suffer from lower framerates at 4k as a result

Yea i learned the hardway. i currently use a trheadripper 3960x and thought no GPU will get bottlenecked by a 24core beast. Well i was wrong and now i am waiting for a 9950x3d cpu to come out....

ICDP · 2025-01-23T22:35:20+0000

parisv said:
I was just watching this also. Sound doesn’t too far off 4090 but some other reviews suggest otherwise?

Because the temperature and acoustics test is frankly, pointless. Nobody games for 3x 60 second runs in an open system to objectively measure noise and heat.

In a closed case after a few hours the laws of thermodynamics must be obeyed. That heat goes somewhere and that means massive heat to dissipate into your case and room. You will be like an extra from it ain’t half hot mum (showing my age here). If you have an air cooled CPU, it will not be remotely happy.

Absolutely Clueless · 2025-01-23T22:36:18+0000

Grim5 said:
Were in the age where CPUs now bottleneck GPUs at 4k

And no one can claim Steve from HUB did not predict this because he's been shouting from the roof tops, everytime someone claimed that testing CPus at 1080p was pointless, now those people who listened to Steve would have better performance at 4k on a 5090, and those who didn't listen will suffer from lower framerates at 4k as a result

I'm CPU bottlenecked in quite a few games I play. Turns out hitting 240fps at 4k requires a monster CPU, who knew?!.
Even the 9800X3D cannot do it in every multiplayer game I play. I will happily turn down graphical settings and use DLSS performance in a fast paced game to get close to 240fps on the GPU side, but there is zero scaling in games on the CPU side. Hence my slightly odd decision (to many) to upgrade from a 7800X3D to 9800X3D.

Absolutely Clueless · 2025-01-23T22:37:39+0000

ICDP said:
Because the temperature and acoustics test is frankly, pointless. Nobody games for 3x 60 second runs to test noise and heat. You game for a few hours in most people’s PC rooms and that 600w monster will have it feeling like you are in the tropics.

In a closed case after a few hours the laws of thermodynamics must be obeyed. That heat goes somewhere and that means massive heat to dissipate into your case and room. If you have an air cooled CPU, it will not be remotely happy.

Sorry but that’s the honest truth.

Using a 5090 FE and an air cooler is a non-starter.
Computer base has a great chart in their review which showed the 9800X3D running c.20c higher when using a 5090 FE over the 4090 FE.

Personality+ · 2025-01-23T22:37:48+0000

jonneymendoza said:
This is a really good unique revierw that touches on things that otehrs have not!!

@TNA @Noxia @mrk

Great review

Dannyr90 · 2025-01-23T22:37:51+0000

These cards are not going to perform well in small form factors and in rooms that aren't well ventilated for sure, still.... might be cheaper than turning on the central heating

parisv · 2025-01-23T22:41:27+0000

ICDP said:
Because the temperature and acoustics test is frankly, pointless. Nobody games for 3x 60 second runs in an open system to objectively measure noise and heat.

In a closed case after a few hours the laws of thermodynamics must be obeyed. That heat goes somewhere and that means massive heat to dissipate into your case and room. You will be like an extra from it ain’t half hot mum (showing my age here). If you have an air cooled CPU, it will not be remotely happy.

Yeah I have an aio but exhaust at the top. I’ll have to move it to the front and be intake if I did get one as the hot air from that fernace would affect it I would imagine?

TheRealDeal · 2025-01-23T22:45:14+0000

jonneymendoza said:
Yea i learned the hardway. i currently use a trheadripper 3960x and thought no GPU will get bottlenecked by a 24core beast. Well i was wrong and now i am waiting for a 9950x3d cpu to come out....

Gaming is more about having enough fast cpu cores/threads to push the gpu. What you have is loads of cores that can't keep up and most likely underutilized. Remember Intel with 4 ccore 8 threads were still the kings of gaming with half the cores and threads when Rysen arrived. I would say 8 to 12 cores are still what you need gaming wise but i am betting you never bought a threadripper to simply game.

XeNoNF50 · 2025-01-23T22:47:13+0000

Grim5 said:
Were in the age where CPUs now bottleneck GPUs at 4k

And no one can claim Steve from HUB did not predict this because he's been shouting from the roof tops, everytime someone claimed that testing CPus at 1080p was pointless, now those people who listened to Steve would have better performance at 4k on a 5090, and those who didn't listen will suffer from lower framerates at 4k as a result

Reading between the lines HUB essentially said in their review to not bother considering getting a 5090 if you don't have a 9800x3d.

Honestly, even with a 4090 it made a huge difference for me. Couldn't actually believe to what extent it helped vs the 5950x I had previously.

Sparky · 2025-01-23T22:47:24+0000

harmattan said:
50/50 they'll catch it, lots and lots of experience here. And nowadays very real possibility of it getting "lost" (and insurance cost will negate money saved). You still need to declare on value and if you're not truthful and it's caught, you'll pay thousands.

I do it with performance car parts quite often, got a friend in SC who sends stuff over for me.

jonneymendoza · 2025-01-23T22:49:38+0000

TheRealDeal said:
Gaming is more about having enough fast cpu cores/threads to push the gpu. What you have is loads of cores that can't keep up and most likely underutilized. Remember Intel with 4 ccore 8 threads were still the kings of gaming with half the cores and threads. I would say 8 to 12 cores are still what you need gaming wise but i am betting you never bought a threadripper to simply game.

Nope i diddnt.

I do productive work on my computer and it is amazing for that

Hostile_18 · 2025-01-23T22:59:15+0000

We can't really evaluate what the (high end) average gamer should or shouldn't buy until the 5080 reviews tbh. Even if the difference is fairly big, so to is the price.

We only have half the equation at the moment.