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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

5090 OC with power scaling

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This power consumption is mental. Would this not of been laughed at in the past? Ironically electricity is more expensive now than ever, are people really thinking this is a good card? :eek:
 
So

3090ti - 4090 60% average gains
3090 - 4090 73% average gains (my last upgrade)

4090 - 5090 27% average gains

I'm out

Actually it’s nearly 100% average gains in you include Multi-FrameGen

(he says tongue-in-cheek to wind up some fellows posters here :))
 
This power consumption is mental. Would this not of been laughed at in the past? Ironically electricity is more expensive now than ever, are people really thinking this is a good card? :eek:

When the radeon gpus where pulling stupid power it rightfully got massively dumped on, but when nvidia do it, they seem to get away with it.

Nvidia is the apple of gpus, they could put a pile of crap out slap a nvidia badge on it and it will sell, just look at the 4060.

This new card is a fantastic card, but only if you've got deep pockets and your upgrading from a 3000 series (outside of 3090 & varients) or you're upgrading from any 8gb card. And also if you can get one on release. But essentially this isn't the card the majority should be looking at for high end gaming. The 5070ti on paper or the 4080 super.
 
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tough one if 6080 is same performance at 5090 then you could have had 5090 all along.
If 6080 had performance of 5090 but same power use, I wouldn't touch it either though. To me it's not even 5090 pricing (I could sell 4090 for very good monies it seems) but the power use is a big no no. And tests shown that one has to have very good CPU and case cooling design too or it will heat up all other components inside pc rapidly - it is in any way a space heater, inside your pc, after all. All that beast 600W gets dumped on all other components and then all other fans have to work harder (louder) to get rid of it.
 
When the radeon gpus where pulling stupid power it got massively dumped on, but when nvidia do it, they seem to get away with it.

Nvidia is the apple of gpus, they could put a pile of crap out slap a nvidia badge on it and it will sell, just look at the 4060.

Has there ever been a GPU that used 600 Watts before? From Radeon you say. That level of power use blows my mind, regardless of which brand it is. This GPU honestly seems like a joke. The performance, the price and the power consumption :confused:

Each to their own, just my honest opinion. I'm not into the whole AMD VS Nvidia thing, seems to be brought up to divert, and serve people's echo chambers. AMD are having trouble even launching their cards. Not looking like a great gen from either camp so far. Disappointing.

I sold my RTX 4070 Ti Super in anticipation of this gen LOL. Yeah feeling disappointed.
 
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When the radeon gpus where pulling stupid power it rightfully got massively dumped on, but when nvidia do it, they seem to get away with it.

Nvidia is the apple of gpus, they could put a pile of crap out slap a nvidia badge on it and it will sell, just look at the 4060.

This new card is a fantastic card, but only if you've got deep pockets and your upgrading from a 3000 series (outside of 3090 & varients) or you're upgrading from any 8gb card. And also if you can get one on release. But essentially this isn't the card the majority should be looking at for high end gaming. The 5070ti on paper or the 4080 super.

Why the 4080 super over the 5080 if they are the same price? :)
 
Why the 4080 super over the 5080 if they are the same price? :)
Sorry I didn't purposely leave the 5080 out, it's all down to price and availability, there's going to be very little difference between the 5070ti, 4080 super and 5080. Imo the 5070ti if on paper translates to real world is the best bang for buck here for high end gaming and we're looking at single digit % performance between them all.


Has there ever been a GPU that used 600 Watts before? From Radeon you say. That level of power use blows my mind, regardless of which brand it is. This GPU honestly seems like a joke. The performance, the price and the power consumption :confused:

Each to their own, just my honest opinion. I'm not into the whole AMD VS Nvidia thing, seems to be brought up to divert, and serve people's echo chambers. AMD are having trouble even launching their cards. Not looking like a great gen from either camp so far. Disappointing.

I sold my RTX 4070 Ti Super in anticipation of this gen LOL. Yeah feeling disappointed.

No amd gpu went close to 600w, but I meant massive power consumption for it's time.

I'm the same as you in as far as I also have no interest in nvidia vs amd, I just want a good card for a good price. I've had majority nvidia cards but I've had a couple of radeon cards as well, I bought a 6950 xt (replacing 1080ti)for £400 in the summer as a stop gap until nvidia and amd releases the latest generation.
 
Has there ever been a GPU that used 600 Watts before? From Radeon you say. That level of power use blows my mind, regardless of which brand it is. This GPU honestly seems like a joke. The performance, the price and the power consumption :confused:

Each to their own, just my honest opinion. I'm not into the whole AMD VS Nvidia thing, seems to be brought up to divert, and serve people's echo chambers. AMD are having trouble even launching their cards. Not looking like a great gen from either camp so far. Disappointing.

I sold my RTX 4070 Ti Super in anticipation of this gen LOL. Yeah feeling disappointed.
What are you planning to do now ? 5080 or try and grab a 4080 Super or 4090 ?
 
The reason why the performance leap is not massive is because it's on the same processing node as the 4000 series.

Assuming the 6000 series is on a smaller manufacturing process that's when we'll see a big performance leap.
not sure how big it will be going from 4nm to 3nm the 3090 8nm -> 4090 4nm was a big leap. It will use a lot less power I'd imagine.
 
I was set on the 5090 but I'm not comfortable with the high power draw and noise for the next two years. I think 5090 value will be destroyed on the new node and even if I kept it I'd be gutted people are getting the same performance for substantially less wattage and heat.

5080 for me (plus a grand in my pocket), then 6080.
 
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If 6080 had performance of 5090 but same power use, I wouldn't touch it either though. To me it's not even 5090 pricing (I could sell 4090 for very good monies it seems) but the power use is a big no no. And tests shown that one has to have very good CPU and case cooling design too or it will heat up all other components inside pc rapidly - it is in any way a space heater, inside your pc, after all. All that beast 600W gets dumped on all other components and then all other fans have to work harder (louder) to get rid of it.
I'm on the same page. I spent decent money on a 3090ti but generally run it undervolted to around 350w. Admittedly in a small room but even at this time of year it gets warm after a while, let alone the racket from dissipating all that heat if I run it overclocked. I'm going to have a look at the 5080 but from reviews of the 5090 I think I'll be saving my money.
 
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So

3090ti - 4090 60% average gains
3090 - 4090 73% average gains (my last upgrade)

4090 - 5090 27% average gains

I'm out

Pretty disappointing when you look at those stats, considering the price and performance increase the 4090 gave.

Makes the hype marketing strategy and artificial demand nothing more than a laugh, classic sales tactics taught on a daily seminar, not that I would buy one anyway. :cry:
 
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Bit of a common take. But I'm not impressed with the performance increase vs the power and cost increase.

Also not happy with the gulf between the halo card and the lower tier cards.
 
Pretty disappointing when you look at this stats, makes the hype marketing strategy and atificial demand nothing more than a laugh, classic sales tactic taught on a daily seminar, not that I would buy one anyway. :cry:

To be fair what average consumer looks into things like we do, to get the full picture. Rightfully so as well, I bet there's loads of other things we buy that we don't do this kind of research into. :)
 
A quick question . ATM i have the 240hz oled 32inch monitor. My cpu is the 14900k ocd to 6.1 ddr 4 ram at 4200hz. Would I be better holding on to the 4090 and get the new 9950X3D and some nice ddr5 or would I still see a better uplift buying the 5090 gaming at 4k?
That is a pretty rare combo and probably very limited data from mainstream sources, I think 13/14th clocked high and with 8000 MT ram was of choice to e-sports over 7800X3D, but as requires much more knowledge to oc at that level its kind of niche.

DDR4 4000+ can be really fast if you have tight timings. Think likes of 4200 C15 was comparable to 8000 C36 at least in a lot of games, think in heavy RT games they benefitted more from bandwidth that you get with DDR5 (spiderman comes to mind).

I would wonder about your 6.1 clock though as wasn't that in danger zone for all the issues, thought you were supposed to lock all cores around 5.5 with sensible voltage.


Does seem like 5090 is 4090Ti - artificially gated with the MFG, 6000 series could be way better jump if they go to a MCM or even just down to 3nm.
 
Pretty disappointing when you look at those stats, considering the price and performance increase the 4090 gave.

Makes the hype marketing strategy and artificial demand nothing more than a laugh, classic sales tactics taught on a daily seminar, not that I would buy one anyway. :cry:
I don't know, when you're adding things into your $10k super entertainment, & gaming command center, what's another 2k for a mediocre uplift and half a towns power consumption :D
 
What are you planning to do now ? 5080 or try and grab a 4080 Super or 4090 ?

I'm just sort of watching in horror with each disappointing bit of news about upcoming GPU's :D . My concern with any Nvidia card is that, it's seemingly just the same process, so as an example its unlikely that the 5070 Ti can offer much over the 4070 Ti S apart from frame gen which I don't care about anyway if that makes sense.

I'll just keep watching and hopefully something decent will come out from one of brands. 1st world problems I guess.
 
Bit of a common take. But I'm not impressed with the performance increase vs the power and cost increase.

Also not happy with the gulf between the halo card and the lower tier cards.
This gen is really crying out for a 5080ti to sit somewhere in between on price, performance and power draw. If that ends up launching that will probably be the sensible option.
 
I'm just sort of watching in horror with each disappointing bit of news about upcoming GPU's :D . My concern with any Nvidia card is that, it's seemingly just the same process, so as an example its unlikely that the 5070 Ti can offer much over the 4070 Ti S apart from frame gen which I don't care about anyway if that makes sense.

I'll just keep watching and hopefully something decent will come out from one of brands. 1st world problems I guess.
There's likely to be a refresh in a years time with a 5080ti with extra vram with decent uplift for a relatively small price increase. They've left such a big gap between the 80 & 90 that it would be easy for them to insert a new card without much of an issue
 
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