NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

[ICDP]

It is great for us on 30 series or below

yeah, I swear people seem to forget that most people are not upgrading from a 4000 series...

The uplift at 5080 tier and below has been available for you for about two years year at a similar price. Even the 5090 is offering nothing on price/performance ratio over a 4090 and you could have had one of those over two years ago.

So respectfully, no it really isn’t much better than you could have already been running as far as price/performance and power efficiency are concerned.

Not only that your 3000 series card would have got you a lot more used a year or two ago.

I’m not getting at you both personally, but pointing out the mediocrity that Nvidia are offering for this generation. I think everyone expected more from Nvidia typically for a new gen uplift.

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

Tbh depending on the game I'm more than happy with 60hz as long as frame pacing is absolutely perfect my main screen is a LG OLED at 4k/120 and more than happy on that 90% of the time, the 480hz monitor is a 2nd screen and used for when I fancy playing at much higher fps although there is a very very noticeable difference in motion clarity between the 2 but will only notice that on a back to back test

Bloke with a 480hz monitor says he is more than happy with 60fps. GTFO. I’m calling the rozzers on you, Sir.

 

[ne0]

Some people here were convinced it would be at least 10% or so faster than the 4090 for a lot less, that was the point.

I guess that was just based on previous gen uplifts then. So is the 5080 the better card to buy based on price to performance? Seems that way.

 

[jinxpad]

The thing is even if people do skip this generation, unless AMD/Intel Pull off some miraculous turn around and decide to hop back into the competition at the high end, The 6000 series is just going to be priced at the exact same as what the 5000 series is at the very least.

Assuming that the 6000 series improves on the architecture and efficiency, and then provides anywhere close to a performance jump in pure raster, similar to what the 4090 did to the 3090/ti I can't see them charging anything less than 2500 for the FE. It's so ludicrous to even say out loud.

 

[mrk]

The 50 series ended up cheaper than rumours suggested for FE, so maybe 60 will be just the same.

Also, more time to save.

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

For me upgrading from 4080 super to 5090 is worth it gaming at 4K.

Genuine question though, everyone seems very happy when a CPU has a 20% performance uplift in a generation, why are GPU's different?

Someone with more knowledge can comment from a technical perspective, but if you are used to 50-70% perf increase each generation and that suddenly drops to 30%, it’s going to be unpleasant. Simple as that. CPUs have always had lower uplifts each generation.

 

[ne0]

The uplift a 5080 tier and below has been available for you for well over two years year at a similar price. Even the 5090 is offering nothing on price/performance over a 4090 and you could have had one of those over two years ago.

So respectfully, no it really isn’t much better than you could have already been tuning as far as price/performance and power efficiency are concerned.

Not only that your 3000 series card would have got you a lot more used a year or two ago.

I’m not getting at you both personally, but pointing out the mediocrity that Nvidia are offering for this generation. I think everyone expected more from Nvidia typically for a new gen uplift.

I disagree.

A 3090 was more capable running AAA games 2 years ago than it is now and the need to upgrade wasn't really there.

The 4080 was £1200 at launch.
The 4090 was £1600 at launch.

Neither were necessary upgrades from a 3090 2 years ago in the vast majority of use cases.

The 4080 Super launched too late to really be a sensible purchase before the 50 series imminent arrival.

The 5080 comes at a perfect time for 30 series owners to upgrade. It's far cheaper than both 4080 and 4090 were at launch.

30 series owners upgrading to 5080 for £1k are getting big upgrade for a relatively good price and even from a 3090 it's a very decent upgrade. Plus you get the AI goodies as a Brucey bonus.

 

[jinxpad]

The 50 series ended up cheaper than rumours suggested for FE, so maybe 60 will be just the same.

Also, more time to save.

Cheaper than the rumours suggested in terms of MSRP, sure! So at the very least they will be priced the same as what 5000 series is. But I don't know, given that they have no competition (at the high/"enthusiast" end) and if the performance bump from the 6000 series if we assume is another 30% on the conservative side they still don't have any incentive to keep it at this current price. Let alone if whatever changes they make provide substantial uplifting performance outside of AI stuff.

 

[Youngtimer]

The 5080 comes at a perfect time for 30 series owners to upgrade. It's far cheaper than both 4080 and 4090 were at launch.

30 series owners upgrading to 5080 for £1k are getting big upgrade, even from a 3090 it's a very decent upgrade. Plus you get the AI goodies as a Brucey bonus.

Agree, with the new improvements to DLSS4 transformer model, frame-gen ect. you will be able to max your 4k/120hz OLED most of the time.

Does the 4080 FE get the same 2-Slot cooler as the 5090 FE? Should world very well with the lower TDP.

 

[ICDP]

I disagree.

A 3090 was more capable running AAA games 2 years ago than it is now and the need to upgrade wasn't really there.

The 4080 was £1200 at launch.
The 4090 was £1600 at launch.

Neither were necessary upgrades from a 3090 2 years ago in the bay majority of use cases.

The 4080 Super launched too late to really be a sensible purchase before the 50 series imminent arrival.

The 5080 comes at a perfect time for 30 series owners to upgrade. It's far cheaper than both 4080 and 4090 were at launch.

30 series owners upgrading to 5080 for £1k are getting big upgrade, even from a 3090 it's a very decent upgrade. Plus you get the AI goodies as a Brucey bonus.

Disagree all you want. It won’t change the fact the 5000 series have a very mediocre uplift compared to the 4000 series. So the “uplift” you waited an extra 2 + years for is something you could have already experienced for the past few years.

Also the 4000 series get the same DLSS 4 IQ improvements. Only fake frames plus is missing.

 

[xaldub]

Someone with more knowledge can comment from a technical perspective, but if you are used to 50-70% perf increase each generation and that suddenly drops to 30%, it’s going to be unpleasant. Simple as that. CPUs have always had lower uplifts each generation.

And they won't cost you £2-3k for that uplift either ....

 

[RavenXXX2]

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[Absolutely Clueless]

And they won't cost you £2-3k for that uplift either ....

The way the 9800X3D’s were being scalped by ALL retailers had me worried they could hit that price. At one point they were increasing £10 a day at some retailers. Utterly ridiculous.

 

[ne0]

Disagree all you want. It won’t change the fact the 5000 series have a very mediocre uplift compared to the 4000 series. So the “uplift” you waited an extra 2 + years for is something you could have already experienced for the past few years.

Also the 4000 series get the same DLSS 4 IQ improvements. Only fake frames plus is missing.

At a higher cost and with less justification. You just completely glossed over my points but ok.

Everyone agrees that the 50 series is disappointing compared to the 40 series, but you're not going to convince 30 series owners that their upgrade is somehow less significant because they didn't upgrade 2 years ago

 

[StarShock]

You know this thing is gonna be at least £1200 and looks like it will be slower than a 4090.

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[ICDP]

At a higher cost and with less justification. You just completely glossed over my points but ok.

Everyone agrees that the 50 series is disappointing compared to the 40 series, but you're not going to convince 30 series owners that their upgrade is somehow less significant because they didn't upgrade 2 years ago

Now point to where I said it was less significant, rather than just pointing out that the fact upgrading from a lower end GPU doesn’t magically make the 5000 series an any better.

 

[harmattan]

I think this might go down as the worst GPU generation. 5090 is entirely just a 4090ti, it doesn't even feel like it's new, it just feels like a heavily overclocked 4090 and it's going to cost as much as a decent used car. The rest of the stack might be looking at single digit performance increases. This generation is also going to have some dubious firsts, like first 80 series not to beat the old flagship.

Then you have AMD, who are offering a less powerful card than the previous generation, and are so ashamed of it they refuse to acknowledge they've made it, which is just a bizarre way to sell a product lol.

IDK I don't want to be inflammatory or reactionary, but this looks like a generation that would have been better as a 59.99 software patch or something.

I reactionarily dismissed you're statement at first glance, but I went back and looked at a few of the worst gen-on-gen price/performance changes e.g. NV30, Polaris in history. Even those saw a 30-40% uptick across the model line up. What we're likely looking at here:

5090 - 32% faster, ~30% (street price) more expensive than 4090 = 2% p/p improvement
5080 - 15% faster, same cost as 4080 = 15% p/p improvement
5070 ti - 15% faster, 6% less expensive as 5070 ti = 21% p/p improvement
5070 - 15% faster, 8% less expensive than 4070 = 23% p/p improvement

Back of the envelope, and I'm sure I'm missing some variables e.g. VRAM (not in 5-series favour, I'm sure), but that's a very depressing picture.

 

[jonneymendoza]

At a higher cost and with less justification. You just completely glossed over my points but ok.

Everyone agrees that the 50 series is disappointing compared to the 40 series, but you're not going to convince 30 series owners that their upgrade is somehow less significant because they didn't upgrade 2 years ago

Well said

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

You know this thing is gonna be at least £1200 and looks like it will be slower than a 4090.

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And it will be sold out for the first few months.

 

[Monkeyboysteve]

The uplift at 5080 tier and below has been available for you for about two years year at a similar price. Even the 5090 is offering nothing on price/performance ratio over a 4090 and you could have had one of those over two years ago.

So respectfully, no it really isn’t much better than you could have already been running as far as price/performance and power efficiency are concerned.

Not only that your 3000 series card would have got you a lot more used a year or two ago.

I’m not getting at you both personally, but pointing out the mediocrity that Nvidia are offering for this generation. I think everyone expected more from Nvidia typically for a new gen uplift.

Except it's been next to impossible to find a 4090 at msrp, it's been over 2000 for most of that time due to AIB's charging a premium, especially the last year or so. so the price to performance was a lot worse than the 5090. (not that most people will find an FE 5090 either)