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Grim5 said:
I'm unsure why anyone still wants the astral. The MSI Suprim looks better, its fans are much quieter, it runs at lower temps and its $400 cheaper
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I also can't say I came out too impressed checking those Astral reviews, and that was without the price factored in. It's a shame we don't see too many other options reviewed yet because I'm sure a few of them can do much better for less. I didn't see anything impressive on that card.
 
McCarthy said:
I sell my previous 4090 system and with the money I made, I’m only paying for the gpu every 2 years.

When I do this I get in a system build queue, which sometimes gives a better chance of obtaining a card.

I used to only buy EVGA, but ever since they disappeared, it’s ASUS all the way.
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but $400 premium over MSI cards etc for what? I don't get the mindset. especially as the Astral so far in reviews has the worst coil whine I have heard.
 
DizzyZ said:
Honestly, it's less on the price and more on my experience with Asus being terrible for every product I've bought lol
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I’ve had bad experience with EVGA in the past past. I’d still buy one. I’ve been lucky with ASUS so far and never had any issues.
 
DizzyZ said:
Honestly, it's less on the price and more on my experience with Asus being terrible for every product I've bought lol
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I’ve had ASUS products including higher end monitors and touch the wood, never had problems.

What issues have you experienced?
 
I have a suprim 4080, because locally the first few months it was impossible to get anything. The card is quite nice, but I've had "budget" gpu's, like asus dual pipe model 2070, or gigabyte "gaming" line cards, and never seen any trouble.

I had the top tier gigabyte 3070 with the LCD screen and all, the first fan stopped working a week in.

They should at least bin the dies to upcharge. 500 dollars over MSRP is another class of card, they could at least sell you a top 10% die or something. It's a scam. There's no way they use +500 dollars of materials. As long as the cooler is full size and it has 3 fans, it's gonna perform the same as the rest.

IDK. Even the founders 5090 irks me. I keep hearing about what an achievement the cooler is, but I'd rather buy a base level card gigabyte with a full sized cooler. If you're gonna make a 700 watt card, at least embrace it so you can get all the performance out of it - don't try to make it fit in SF cases. Also more complicated = more likely to break. I like the massive, simple coolers. They are so quiet and simple. Nvidia doing some cool vapor chamber engineering and liquid metal stuff just sounds to me like trouble, and it performs worse than the big dumb coolers anyways so
 
Grim5 said:
I'm unsure why anyone still wants the astral. The MSI Suprim looks better, its fans are much quieter, it runs at lower temps and its $400 cheaper
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I'm puzzled by the Astral hype - personally I see absolutely nothing going for it, Asus must be hitting the grassroots PR hard or something, on another forum you pretty much get attack for even the slightest criticism of it.
 
Rroff said:
I'm puzzled by the Astral hype - personally I see absolutely nothing going for it, Asus must be hitting the grassroots PR hard or something, on another forum you pretty much get attack for even the slightest criticism of it.
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Yea I'm with you, Idk why I keep seeing the word Astral. It's literally by definition the worst 5090 you can buy, since the dies are random and it's the most expensive example.

Since ethereum mining though, and now with the AI boom, GPU's have kind of taken on some kind of importance beyond their actual function. Like they are just a collection of cores all figuring out axb+c=d 8 trillion times a second, but they seem to have some level of status now
 
Rroff said:
I'm puzzled by the Astral hype - personally I see absolutely nothing going for it, Asus must be hitting the grassroots PR hard or something, on another forum you pretty much get attack for even the slightest criticism of it.
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It's funny. I think as soon as the warranty stuff came out about them recently (driven by GN I believe), the tide in many places online has turned against the brand. Do I expect this to dent their sales? Not at all.
 
DizzyZ said:
Yup, it's a completely different world now, graphics cards demand is through the roof and the supply is going down. It's why people were able to sell their 4090s at almost cost 2 years later
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Nvidia’s gaming revenue doesn’t back this up, in fact demand has been quite low on GPUs in general over the past 2 years according to John peddie research, up until recently 4090s were quite plentiful and available for at or even below msrp in some cases and used prices were far better a year ago. It’s only recently that prices have gone up and that’s down to Nvidia contrived shortage.
 
cliffy said:
It aint teh best but it is something at least
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And usefully some of the parts of the review the numbers are in the wrong order for the tests.
It's definitely a mess, but I think I got the gist of it.

I'm still undecided between the MSI Suprim with an Alphacool waterblock and the Auros WB Waterforce, so I don't have to mess around with removing the stock cooler.
 
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