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Nvidia DLSS motion sickness

skipper847

skipper847

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Since DLSS came i no longer can play games more than an hour with out motion sickness. I prefer they focus on raw power of the card then using fake AI frames. I get the same feeling but worse watching AI videos. Next gen only going to get worse as they planning to use only AI for the graphics arnt they in the 6000 series?.
 
I was alright with DLSS when I was on Nvidia but turn on ray tracing and motion sickness kicked in big time, same thing happens on my current AMD card.
 
Makes no sense. DLSS is primarily image quality.

Are you talking more specifically about multi frame generation.

I don't remember Nvidia forcing you to use it.
 
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OP - You mean DLSS frame gen specifically, not DLSS upscaling I presume???

If you mean upscaling, then go away. Utter ********. If you do mean frame gen specifically then the only possible reason is the slightly increased input lag. But it's really very slight, assuming you're only using x2 frame gen?

AI videos are a totally separate thing. They hurt because they are soul sapping and basically evil.
 
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I don't understand why dlss would cause motion sicknessn

Frame generation might if it's adding more blur but dlss nope

However if someone is so sensitive that they get motion sickness from frame gen, then it means they have probably been getting motion sickness for many years playing games because any game that has forced on motion blur will cause motion sickness!
 
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wunkley said:
OP - You mean DLSS frame gen specifically, not DLSS upscaling I presume???

If you mean upscaling, then go away. Utter ********. If you do mean frame gen specifically then the only possible reason is the slightly increased input lag. But it's really very slight, assuming you're only using x2 frame gen?

AI videos are a totally separate thing. They hurt because they are soul sapping and basically evil.
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No DLSS i get the same feeling using this as do scrolling past an AI video. I can tell instant its an AI vid. Since 4.5 DLSS update its got worse using DLSS.

(google)

Yes, some users report feeling sick, dizzy, or nauseous when using NVIDIA DLSS, "particularly when Frame Generation (DLSS 3/4)" is enabled.
 
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skipper847 said:
No DLSS i get the same feeling using this as do scrolling past an AI video. I can tell instant its an AI vid. Since 4.5 DLSS update its got worse using DLSS.
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So... Turn it off and see if your motion sickness goes away?

DLSS upscaling won't cause motion sickness. It gives you more frames, not less. Do you have motion blur disabled in-game?
 
It might be the setting of the DLSS causing your motion sickness...

I have suffer really bad with motion sickness and DLSS hasn't caused me any issues. However I run Quality or Performance and the newest M setting. Anything worse than that and everything is much blurrier!

Also as above, make sure motion blur is off and a high FOV too
 
skipper847 said:
No DLSS i get the same feeling using this as do scrolling past an AI video. I can tell instant its an AI vid. Since 4.5 DLSS update its got worse using DLSS.

(google)

Yes, some users report feeling sick, dizzy, or nauseous when using NVIDIA DLSS, "particularly when Frame Generation (DLSS 3/4)" is enabled.
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You haven't answered the question. Do you mean DLSS frame gen or DLSS upscaling!?
 
It's because of something in your brains perception that is altered, basically for certain people your brain has developed an "expectation" of what happens, it knows what "reality" is supposed to be like. This leads to this, leads to that, etc. Frame Generation however does its own interpretation of what it thinks is happening in between and then pumps it out to you. Your eyes can still pick this variance up and it ends up causing you to feel motion sickness. Your body is basically thinking it's poisoned and trying to get your to hurl to remove the poison substance out of your body.

It's a bit like looking at curved screens for so long, that looking back at flat screens you suddenly think something is off, because your brain has become accustomed to the curve, that the flat displays is being "curved" in your brain, resulting in perfectly flat displays looking slightly curved.

In any case, not fun. But it doesn't impact on many people from what I understand.
 
I'm guessing this is largely due to frame gen, but I wouldn't be overly surprised if the upscaling itself was a problem for some. Is it just DLSS OP, or do you get similar with FSR or XeSS? As mentioned, frame gen on or off? Which games are you talking about exactly, do you play a ton of different where it always happens or just one or two?

It probably seems odd to many, but there are a couple of games that trigger literal migraines (I am prone to them) if I play them for more than short periods of time. Half Life 2 is the biggest culprit, I have played that game since it launched on a myriad of different hardware setups and to this day spending more than 30 minutes starts setting off twinges. There's a couple of other titles that have done it over the years also, and it's not even specifically the source engine as I have no real issue playing for example VTM:B.

Our brains are all wired differently and sometimes weird stuff can set things off in a negative fashion, I'm certainly not equipped to explain why but having experienced strange gaming related problems myself I do get it.
 
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Gray2233 said:
I'm guessing this is largely due to frame gen, but I wouldn't be overly surprised if the upscaling itself was a problem for some. Is it just DLSS OP, or do you get similar with FSR or XeSS? As mentioned, frame gen on or off? Which games are you talking about exactly, do you play a ton of different where it always happens or just one or two?

It probably seems odd to many, but there are a couple of games that trigger literal migraines (I am prone to them) if I play them for more than short periods of time. Half Life 2 is the biggest culprit, I have played that game since it launched on a myriad of different hardware setups and to this day spending more than 30 minutes starts setting off twinges. There's a couple of other titles that have done it over the years also, and it's not even specifically the source engine as I have no real issue playing for example VTM:B.

Our brains are all wired differently and sometimes weird stuff can set things off in a negative fashion, I'm certainly not equipped to explain why but having experienced strange gaming related problems myself I do get it.
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Half-Life 2 triggers motion sickness for me. I can't even watch people stream it.
But like you I'm fine with VTM:B and even TF2.

It's strange the things that can set us off.
 
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Half-Life 2 triggers motion sickness for me. I can't even watch people stream it.
But like you I'm fine with VTM:B and even TF2.

It's strange the things that can set us off.
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There's been probably less than 10 games in the 35 + years I've been playing them that have had the same effect on me.

It's super rare, HL2 seems to be the most common one that I've found others with the same/similar problems with.
 
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GoogalyMoogaly said:
Half-Life 2 triggers motion sickness for me. I can't even watch people stream it.
But like you I'm fine with VTM:B and even TF2.

It's strange the things that can set us off.
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Worst games for me?

Dead Space
Collisto Protocol

That tight FOV behind the shoulder and I'm near puke within an hour of player
 
I guess the inconsistencies frame to frame (i.e. vegetation has running patterns of noise in it which gets worse at lower quality presets) could cause motion sickness for some people with DLSS even without frame gen, though I'd be surprised if that was happening at quality preset level (and completely unsurprised at performance or lower). It should be better though with 4.5 at quality level due to less ghosting in movement.
 
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As the doctor says, have you tried not doing that.

I must have clocked up 2000 hours in cs, lousy virtual motion sickness but what else was there to play. Fallout also. Actually there's a bunch. All first person games.

If you're certain it's a graphics setting, turn it off. And consider what card you buy next if that graphics setting adds a premium to the price since you won't use it.

There are medications for motion sickness, bit weird to take them to play video games but needs must.
 
skipper847 said:
I prefer they focus on raw power of the card then using fake AI
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Its not because they are not focusing on raw power, its because over the years it has became harder and harder to get gains that way.

As for motion sickness, I get it with or without DLSS. It is the game that does it to me. The worst being games like serious sam.
 
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