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** NVIDIA GTX 560Ti "448 Edition" NOW AVAILABLE! **

I'd like to see the Asus card price before deciding but seriously considering this card.

Still think they should be 200 quid mind.
 
im really considering the zotac, colours suit my system to a T and aint it better/faster than the 570?

Will be running SLI if i go for it.(maybe one now and one after christmas)
 
im really considering the zotac, colours suit my system to a T and aint it better/faster than the 570?

Will be running SLI if i go for it.(maybe one now and one after christmas)

How can something that is a crippeld version of the better card be better?

570 > 560ti 448
 
yes dont be confused, a 570 is a plain and simple faster card. Hopefully the slight reduction in prices from various retailers mean that ppl are being smart enough not to buy them for the current price
 
How can something that is a crippeld version of the better card be better?

570 > 560ti 448

from this review this is what i picked up from it. thats the reason there was a question mark behind my statement, to be corrected :)
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/11/29/limited-edition-geforce-560s-launched-review-round-up/

The key difference, however, is that the 448 Edition is built using NVIDIA’s GF110 chip rather than the GF114. The GF110 is the same core that’s used on its highest end GTX580 cards, which has 512 shader cores. The GTX 560Ti 448 is, like the 480 core GTX 570, simply one of those chips that has had a number of cores disabled, because they didn’t meet the grade for the highest performing boards.
 
from this review this is what i picked up from it. thats the reason there was a question mark behind my statement, to be corrected :)
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/11/29/limited-edition-geforce-560s-launched-review-round-up/

What they're saying is that the 580/70/560Ti 448 are all based on the same GF110 core, but the 570 is a gimped 580 and the 560Ti 448 is a gimped 570. Each successive card has fewer cores but it's the same basic architecture/card. The 580 is significantly faster than the 570 and the 570 is somewhat faster than the 560Ti 448.
 
from this review this is what i picked up from it. thats the reason there was a question mark behind my statement, to be corrected :)
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/11/29/limited-edition-geforce-560s-launched-review-round-up/

The Zotac 448 is overall slightly faster than the 570 because it is OCed. Yes. That makes you wonder how much more it can be OCed. And the question is, if you OC the 570 to an average max and the Zotac to an average max, will it still hold the lead? I don't know. But that's what you gotta find out if you're going to go for it on the grounds that it's faster.


EDIT: The OC on this GA 560 Ti 448 is pretty impressive:
http://*****.net/tech/reviews/graphics/32769-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-560-ti-448/?page=12
 
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If the 560-448, 570 and 580 are all a similar GPU with more or less modules disabled it is logical that higher overclocks are more likely on the 560.

Heat is a limiting factor in overclocking.

Assuming they start at the same default clocks if you have more modules disabled less heat will be generated for a given voltage and clock as you have less transistors operating. Hence you could put more voltage through before heat gets damaging or prevents normal operation. Thus you "could" get get a higher stable overclock without hitting issues with heat.

Its still a lottery but i can see higher clocks with the cheaper cards. Obviously they have less processing power per clock cycle tho so it's unlikely you will regain what you lost.

O/c'ed to the max you would still expect the 580 to perform best of the bunch, but its lead is likely to be less than you might think.
 
If the 560-448, 570 and 580 are all a similar GPU with more or less modules disabled it is logical that higher overclocks are more likely on the 560.

Heat is a limiting factor in overclocking.

Assuming they start at the same default clocks if you have more modules disabled less heat will be generated for a given voltage and clock as you have less transistors operating. Hence you could put more voltage through before heat gets damaging or prevents normal operation. Thus you "could" get get a higher stable overclock without hitting issues with heat.

Its still a lottery but i can see higher clocks with the cheaper cards. Obviously they have less processing power per clock cycle tho so it's unlikely you will regain what you lost.

O/c'ed to the max you would still expect the 580 to perform best of the bunch, but its lead is likely to be less than you might think.

basically Good assessment ;)

One point You miss is although you can wind up chips with "crippled " architecture generally they will never be as good as the fully functioning versions, Sure You may match max and avg fps in benchmarks with a big O/C but the important min fps never seem to pick up proportionally.

I think overall we are in a much better position with our hardware than 5 years back, when it was accepted we could not run the games at max quality.

Let's see what these new ATI cards bring to the table, If they are good all the Nvidia fermi cards will get massive price cut's :D
 
Went for the Asus 570 in the end. Seems pointless going with the 560 448core when it's 20 quid more for a fully fledged 570.

Bit of a shame Nvidia didn't get this right price wise.
 
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