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Nvidia GTX 960 and AMD R9 285X – The Specs, the Performance, the Price and the Story

Anyone else a little confused about AMD's GPU naming convention i get the R9 270, R9 280, R9 290 and the R9 290X but now were getting a R9 285x and are they doing a R9 295? or am i thinking of thier dual GPU?

Is the R9 285 to cover off Nvdias GTX960?
 
285 in my system and I can't fault it.

To play the games I play it feels identical to my 680 Excellent bit of kit for the money.

960 does look tempting though especially given the 970 price.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
Oh no, which graph to believe?
Are you saying your original graphs, along with the point you were using them to make, are no longer valid or is the new one not valid?
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They are using a different CPU and GPU and what he says can be backed up in the game with people and websites like TH using weaker CPUs than a Core i5 or Core i7.

However,I probably expect in the case of the R9 285 it is driver problems.

Edit!!

Look at the Thief CPU benchmarks:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/thief-mantle-benchmarks,review-32909.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/793-thief-battlefield-4-mantle-performance/page3.html

The AMD chips get a decent boost from using it.
 
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GoogalyMoogaly said:
So all the graphs are right, despite showing different results?
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#10, tommybhoy: 290X @ 1175/1475, 3770K @ 4.5Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 59.7 / Avr 81.8. Link
#11, Protoo: 290X @ 1208/1498, FX-9370 @ 4.9Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 63.0 / Avr 80.3 - DirectX FPS: Min 36.0 / Avr 56.0. Link
#12, Kaapstad: 290X @ 1250/1625, 4930k @ 4.8Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 61.3 / Avr 79.4 - DirectX FPS: Min 61.9 / Avr 80.2. Link
#13, ~Mike~: 290X @ 1180/1500, 2500K @ 4.8Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 63.7 / Avr 79.1 - DirectX FPS: Min 52.6 / Avr 71.0. Link
#14, Humbug: 290P @ 1200/1500, FX-8350 @ 4.6Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 63.4 / Avr 76.9. Link
 #15, ElliorR: 290P @ 977/1250, 4670k @ 3.4Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 56.1 / Avr 66.8 - DirectX FPS: Min 34.7 / Avr 60.7. Link

2 GPU's
#1, LtMatt: 290P @ 1250/1625, 2700K @ 5.3Ghz - Mantle FPS: Min 109.5 / Avr 142.5 - DirectX FPS: Min 46.3 / Avr 90.2 Link

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18595969&highlight=Thief+Benchmark
 
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OK, so are you saying they are both right or they're not?
Also, you're showing lots of 290/290X results in a thread about the 285X. Based on AMDs naming the 285 seems to be the closest and most relevant GPU to that.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
OK, so are you saying they are both right or they're not?
Also, you're showing lots of 290/290X results in a thread about the 285X. Based on AMDs naming the 285 seems to be the closest and most relevant GPU to that.
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I don't have that CPU or GPU to test against their results, so i don't know, what is true based on various benchmarks by various users is that Mantle is faster than DX even if you have an overclocked i7.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
So all the graphs are right, despite showing different results?
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It looks like driver problems with the R9 285 but look at the TH and Techspot results using AMD CPUs.

Remember TH is using cards like the R9 270X and HD7770 too.

UE3 uses at max 4 threads properly,but is limited by single thread performance. Not such an issue for less intensive UE3 games,but Thief seems quite CPU intensive,and Mantle helps the AMD CPUs gain in framerates,although Intel CPUs still tend to be ahead,but instead of a over 40% margin,it is under 20% it seems.
 
Hopefully the GTX 960 is sub £200 to offer a cool running solution for power conscious users who can't quite justify the outlay of the 970.
 
The poor mantle results on the 285 were due to the difficulties of effectively implementing such low level APIs into lots of different bits of hardware. It's one of the problems with it.
(I might be mistaken as I am drawing this all from memory)

RanxZy said:
Hopefully the GTX 960 is sub £200 to offer a cool running solution for power conscious users who can't quite justify the outlay of the 970.
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960 will have to be sub £200 in order to sell seeing as 970 is currently £250 and will most likely drop with time.
 
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