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NVIDIA & Netflix Now Previewing 4K Streaming Support on GeForce GTX 10 Series Cards

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Way back in May of 2016 when NVIDIA launched the Pascal architecture powered GeForce GTX 10 series, one of the notable features they announced for the product family was support for Netflix’s newly launched 4K streaming option. At the time no PCs could access the service; due to the tighter DRM requirements imposed by Netflix and its content providers, PCs that wanted to stream 4K Netflix would need to support HDCP 2.2 and Microsoft’s PlayReady 3.0 DRM. Pascal in turn was the first GPU that was released to support the new DRM standards, and while NVIDIA didn’t know exactly when support would launch, the expectation was that it would be sooner than later.

However as the months have ticked by, we never did see any further progress from NVIDIA and Netflix on enabling 4K support. And rather unexpectedly, NVIDIA even ended up being surpassed in the PC space by Intel, who became the first vendor to actually launch 4K Netflix support when it was enabled on their Kaby Lake CPUs back in November.

Now just shy of a year later, NVIDIA and Netflix have finally taken the next step towards launching 4K Netflix support on Pascal. In an article posted on NVIDIA’s customer support portal, the company has (quietly) announced a 4K Netflix technology preview, allowing customers with the right hardware and software configurations to access Netflix’s 4K streams via both Microsoft Edge and the Netflix app.

While the article itself doesn’t offer any real explanation for the delay, the system requirements end up giving us a pretty good hint about what’s going on. Along with the expected hardware requirements – a Pascal-based video card and an HDCP 2.2 monitor – the Netflix preview also requires that users are on a Windows Insider build of Windows 10. The NVIDIA article notes in particular that receiving Insider builds is necessary to get the specific NVIDIA driver version supported – 381.74 – as it’s only being distributed as part of the Insider program.

NVIDIA doesn’t make much mention of the OS itself, but the situation is especially interesting since this comes just weeks after Microsoft launched the Windows 10 Creators Update, their latest major update to the OS. According to Microsoft’s API documentation, several new calls were added to PlayReady in this update. This strongly hints that Windows 10 itself was the piece of the puzzle holding back 4K Netflix support.

Further complicating matters however, with the release of the Creators Update, the Windows Insider program is now in early testing of features that will be going into the next version of Windows 10, codenamed “Redstone 3”. So it’s not clear whether the recently-released Creators Update is even enough, or if support hinges on additional functionality intended for Redstone 3.

In any case, for the moment NVIDIA is calling this a preview, presumably due to the Insider OS requirements. Despite this qualifier, 4K Netflix support should fully work on all Pascal GPUs with 3GB or more of VRAM, though this means that 2GB GTX 1050 cards are oddly excluded. NVIDIA does note however that support isn’t currently working with SLI configurations, and in that scenario the video cards need to be unlinked first. NVIDIA has also posted a helpful chart on HDCP 2.2 compliance, noting that 4K support is only available when all active displays support HDCP 2.2; any active HDCP 1.x displays will limit the stream quality to 1080p.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11306/nvidia-netflix-4k-pc-preview-launched

Nvidia finally now has preview 381.74 driver available to Windows Insiders that will let you to watch Netflix 4K HDR contents on standalone Pascal cards and Kaby Lake CPUs with SGX extension supported without rely on Kaby Lake HD 630 and above iGPUs to watched it. The preview driver should able to let you watch Ultra HD Blu-ray playback on standalone Pascal cards and Kaby Lake CPUs with SGX extension too. It will also work with upcoming 6 core Coffee Lake CPUs with SGX extension supported.

It will be nice if somebody can upload preview 381.74 driver so Pascal owners can download to install driver on Creators Update to enjoy watching Netflix 4K HDR contents on Edge or Netflix app from Windows Store.

I was wondered about AMD CPU support for Netflix 4K HDR and Ultra HD Blu-ray since AMD CPUs had Platform Security Processor enabled drivers for 2 years now but developers like Netflix and Cyberlink refused to supported it because it was flawed and DRM not secured in hardware so they preferred Intel Software Guard Extensions found DRM fully secured in hardware with no leaks.
 
Wait so, Only Pascal based cards?

Well that's just rubbish, Maxwell and Kepler are more than capable, so it's just stupid DRM locking them out.
 
I thought 9 series had that? I'm sure of it if I'm wrong would explain it
9 series has hdmi 2.0 but what it doesnt have is displayport 1.4 support

DVI and HDMI, DisplayPort supports HDCP content protection. DisplayPort 1.3+ supports the latest HDCP 2.2 content protection that is required for the latest premium AV contents.

most likely nvidia coverding them selves from users saying why does it not work on my 900 series card
 
(From the other thread)
What a stupid decision all around TBH they should be making it easier for people to watch 4K not jump through hoops - largely based around the need for senseless copy protection mechanisms that will be bypassed so fast by those prepared to go it illegally anyway it isn't even funny.

Gets a big fail from me.

Way to go MS, an Android powered NV Shield Tegra X1 processor with 256-core Maxwell GPU has been Netflix/Amazon/Google Play 4K enabled for a while now so why isn't 4K enabled on all GPUs, seems moronic locking out viewers unless it's down to MS+vendor support?

If I'm understanding this news correctly, if your running a Maxwell Titan on 4K G-Sync panel, there's no 4K support?

Imagine having to run a £150 Shield alongside your uber £2000+ windows rig to gain access to 4K Netflix through Android?

If so that's an embarrassment MS.
 
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4K Netflix, etc. for awhile has only been available via ~£200 or less Android based boxes/devices and/or appropriate 4K TV. Amazon IIRC is pretty much the same. I spend a lot of money going with legal services like these but moves like this just make the illegal avenues look enticing.
 
4K Netflix, etc. for awhile has only been available via ~£200 or less Android based boxes/devices and/or appropriate 4K TV. Amazon IIRC is pretty much the same. I spend a lot of money going with legal services like these but moves like this just make the illegal avenues look enticing.
no proper HDR for so called 'illegal avenues'.
 
4K Netflix, etc. for awhile has only been available via ~£200 or less Android based boxes/devices and/or appropriate 4K TV. Amazon IIRC is pretty much the same. I spend a lot of money going with legal services like these but moves like this just make the illegal avenues look enticing.
I remember last year or year beforehand there was a movie release to DVD in USA but was still a long way off from coming to cinemas in UK. At that point I think company dont want my money so no need of paying for it.
 
Sounds like a bit of a pain in the rear. Seems if you run multiple displays you will have to upgrade all monitors going by the last paragraph.

"Any active displays not hdcp 2.2 compliant will limit stream to 1080p"
 
Yup any display connected even if its not being used for video or even if it couldn't be used for 4K/DRM video will break compatibility completely.
 
Pointless imo, pretty much anyone with a 4K TV will have inbuilt apps to do this or if not a cheap chromecast ultra with do the job on a 4K monitor. The expense and requirements of getting 4K legal content on the PC is bonkers!
 
4K Netflix, etc. for awhile has only been available via ~£200 or less Android based boxes/devices and/or appropriate 4K TV. Amazon IIRC is pretty much the same. I spend a lot of money going with legal services like these but moves like this just make the illegal avenues look enticing.

Not quite true. BT TV Netflix app 4k has been available for quite some time and also on 4k bluray players. I managed to get the Netflix 4k HDR firmware for my Samsung player before Samsung had to pull it. Its still floating around the internet (v1010) for download/manual install. Reason it was pulled ? Some eager techy person as Samsung released it before the deal between Samsung and Netflix was agreed. Firmware was released the other month then pulled and still no "official" update release.

Netflix is definitely the one pulling the strings when it comes to who they want their 4k content to be given to.
 
I was generalising over the various 4K offerings not just Netflix specifically - they are all hit and miss available with relatively cheap Android based devices, etc. and on some TVs while unavaialable on PC or platforms like that.
 
Youtube has streamed 4k videos for ages though. Whats not mentioned yet though is the bitrate. I tested Netflix 4k Marvel series and Groundhog day on both my Samsung player and it was a constant 15.6Mbps. Bluray discs are better than that so without going into the arguement over what is capable over a fibre connection makes you wonder what the Netflix App bitrate will be.

Also just a query but its meant to be enabled in 381.74 yet I am on the latest 381.89 so its not enabled in later releases?
 
Hopefully there's a "FIX" for Maxwell, and Kepler users to be able to use that.

This DRM rubbish needs to stop, especially when there are Android devices that can stream 4K Netflix, but apparently my system cannot.

Hell my LG smart TV downstairs streams 4K Netflix via it's built in Netflix app.
 
Waste of 5 minutes reading this, what a bunch of clowns coming with that as a solution. TBH I'm betting on the content providers being the source of these stupid requirements, yet again they drive people to illegal sources for content :/ /sigh
 
I was looking into 4K Netflix on PC a few days ago and couldn't find anything other than the ancient NV announcement and many articles advising requirement of a Kaby Lake CPU. I have now tried the driver above and I'm surprised it actually works... :p
 
The best way to punish this sort of behavior is to simply not watch it at all. Be stern. That includes any illegal or grey area methods. Simply don't. Cause if you do then some stupid CEO or shareholder will argue for more DRM cause that is clearly the best way to get customers. This doesn't affect me personally, yet, as i dont have a 4k monitor or TV but i can fully understand the rage from those who does.
 
Hopefully there's a "FIX" for Maxwell, and Kepler users to be able to use that.

I am sure Nvidia will release future driver to enabled Netflix 4K HDR support for Maxwell V2 later after release for Pascal first since Nvidia already had Maxwell V2 support enabled for Shield streaming Netflix 4K HDR contents years ago. But Kepler did not have HDMI 2.0a support.

This DRM rubbish needs to stop, especially when there are Android devices that can stream 4K Netflix, but apparently my system cannot.

Why? You probably not realised that android devices required to used Widevine Level 1 DRM to stream 4K Netflix but PCs with Windows 10 cannot used android based Widevine Level 1 DRM so Netflix had to implemented Microsoft PlayReady 3.0 DRM support into Netflix app and Nvidia implemented Microsoft PlayReady 3.0 DRM support into driver.

http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/11...any-android-device-with-widevine-level-1-drm/

Look like Android devices will soon support Microsoft PlayReady 3.0 DRM when it enabled in future and Netflix will likely use both Widevine Level 1 and Microsoft PlayReady 3.0 DRMs at same time to help prevent future hacks or piracy streamings.

http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/11...ports-widevine-and-playready-drm-information/

Hell my LG smart TV downstairs streams 4K Netflix via it's built in Netflix app.

Just all Smart TVs has it too but no one cared about apps like BBC iplayer and Netflix on Smart TVs as less than 1% of people in the world used it after everybody like me and my sister tried and stopped used it after first time. Why? Because it was absolutely very time consumed used a remote control with hundreds of clicks and typing took everybody forever loaded BBC iplayer and navigated for Doctor Who took about 7 mins on my Smart TV but Netflix was worsen took around 15 mins to find a movie with a remote control. So everybody like me and my sister preferred have BBC iplayer and Netflix on desktop, laptop or tablet PC with Windows 10 because it loaded instantly and involved just a few seconds of clicks and typing used both keyboard and mouse then streaming it to Smart TV. :o

PC forever. :)
 
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