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Guys,

I currently have a xfx 8800 ultra and had to recently get a different board (Asus Rampage) which is obviously not sli so was wondering with the new cards coming out Nvidia/ATI I have the choice of a single Nvidia or crossfire with ATI.

Now with the new cards coming on both scenarios single and multiple cards what would be the ones to go for that I will see a performance increase over my ultra??

Would it be either the new GX280 for a single card and then maybe 2x HD4870 or when they come out 2x HD4870x2 ??
 
Have a look around for reviews, currently to be honest I would save your money, and wait it out a little.

Cause naturally as Drivers for the new cards mature, the cards will get a bit better :)
 
Same as the other 2 threads, do not upgrade your card till next time around.

Game at 1920's with AA+AF for now and drop to 1600's with AA+AF if needed later.

Your card is still IMO the best single core, the rehashes since it are nothing special IMO.
 
Got a lot of money?

GTX280 is an improvement over your Ultra.

4870 in xfire should be better than the GTX280 but only when xfire works (GRID doesn't support it) but we won't know for sure for a week.

two 4870x2 will definitely be an improvement on your GTX280.

If you have the money then do it.

If the 4870 in crossfire aren;t a good enough improvement then just miss that step out.
 
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Unless he is struggling in all but 1 badly coded game whats the point ?.

The card is half baked and soon to be Die shrunk to what it should have been in the 1st place.
 
take it you're reffering to crysis... it isnt badly coded... its intentional, the engine was build with future in mind.

No it was not, that comes with later Patches/Add ons, do I need to point you to the URL's.

Its that badly coded 3 patches done little for it and there is to be no more patches, next will be the Follow up/Add on.

Thats still has little to do with the fact his card is suffice for now IMO.
 
No it was not, that comes with later Patches/Add ons, do I need to point you to the URL's.

Its that badly coded 3 patches done little for it and there is to be no more patches, next will be the Follow up/Add on.

Thats still has little to do with the fact his card is suffice for now IMO.

Eh?
Badly coded?

I'll grant you it's hardly super-slick, less than athletic, not exactly uber-efficient..... but the $DEITY awful performance is at least PARTLY due to it being extremely graphically impressive, I certainly have nothing else that looks better. By all means feel free to reccommend something that looks as good as Crysis that runs at 60FPS on max everything.

If you want BAD coding, remember operation flashpoint, lawks-a-lordy that could barely do double figures on my machine at the time which could eat every other game I ran on it. Installed it again years later on a far upgraded machine, and it was STILL lumpy. My current nemesis (well it was until I recycled it's diskspace), is Rainbow 6 vegas. It's on the UT3 engine....UT3 cannot basically be dragged under 60FPS too often on this machine with all the eye candy rammed off the scale.....R6V on the other hand, can barely keep about 30 at reduced res and no AA/AiF, it also handles like playing in treacle.

Don't mean to pick a fight or anything, I just think that Crysis DOES deliver at least SOME justification for it's crappy framerates in it's prettiness. (Not to mention a truly enormous 3d field of play....any other game, those mountains would be bitmaps tacked on to the horizon. But I certainly wouldn't hold it up as a poster child for efficient code monkeying.
 
Eh?
Badly coded?

I'll grant you it's hardly super-slick, less than athletic, not exactly uber-efficient..... but the $DEITY awful performance is at least PARTLY due to it being extremely graphically impressive, I certainly have nothing else that looks better. By all means feel free to reccommend something that looks as good as Crysis that runs at 60FPS on max everything.

If you want BAD coding, remember operation flashpoint, lawks-a-lordy that could barely do double figures on my machine at the time which could eat every other game I ran on it. Installed it again years later on a far upgraded machine, and it was STILL lumpy. My current nemesis (well it was until I recycled its diskspace), is Rainbow 6 vegas. It's on the UE3 engine....UE3 cannot basically be dragged under 60FPS too often on this machine with all the eye candy rammed off the scale.....R6V on the other hand, can barely keep about 30 at reduced res and no AA/AF, it also handles like playing in treacle.

Don't mean to pick a fight or anything, I just think that Crysis DOES deliver at least SOME justification for its crappy framerates in its prettiness. (Not to mention a truly enormous 3d field of play....any other game, those mountains would be bitmaps tacked on to the horizon. But I certainly wouldn't hold it up as a poster child for efficient code monkeying.

While I understand what you mean, I still agree with those that say Crysis is badly optimised.

Look at Fartcry, that's still difficult to run on modern computers. While Crysis does indeed look extremely good, there's other games that look amazing too, most UE3 games look great, Bioshock, UT3, Gears of War, Mass Effect and so on.

They look amazing yet run well too. I'll use a ratio to help get my point across.

With the games I listed above, they have a much higher Graphical Prowess/Performance ratio, much higher than Crysis's.

It's the best looking game out there, but the performance you get compared to what's already out isn't as good as other games.

Rainbow Six games are badly optimised though, they run slow while looking worse than all other UE3 games.

I was very unimpressed when I first saw R6V1 on PS3, I thought it was just the PS3's limited capabilities when it comes to graphics, but I later bought it on PC and while it looks ok, it made me realise the game just looks bad in comparison to the rest of the UE3 games, and runs much worse too.

Though, I didn't have a PS3 at the time, I know it's just a bad looking game. (I do admit I'm impressed with the graphics on some games though.)
 
I think what knackers Crysis is the foliage, not seen too may games try and do it so accurately. When you're on the carrier or in the bases, it runs really really well, but once trees (and smoke/explosions) are involved, it heads south pretty quick.
 
So is it then GX280 for a single card or go for 2 x 4870x2's ?????

LOL Keep on track!

I'd personally wait mate. See what's the best in a bit. I'm not building my system till Crimbo so I get a good chance to see what pans out.

RoEy
 
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