Nvidia preparing new Geforce with GK110

Suarez7 · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:16

One things for sure nvidia have certainly thrown a spanner in the works of potential 290x buyers who are sitting on the edge.

humbug · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:17

Suarez7 said:
Custom 780's are already as fast as stock titans, unless the 780ti is just a rehash to cut power usage/save money and not really improve performance which is doubtful then it's going to be very close to those 290x benches.

Obviously all just speculation, but there's a reason nvidia are launching it and it seems pretty obvious to me it's to target the 290x.

Yes, whatever happens the R9 290X / GTX 780 / GTX Titan are all around the same performance. No one is beat. from there, it all just depends on price.

Now it depends on where the 780TI fits in among all of that ^^^^

Suarez7 · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:19

Price and features, some of the things nvidia have announced will appeal to a select amount of their audience.

RavenXXX2 · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:20

humbug said:
Yes, whatever happens the R9 290X / GTX 780 / GTX Titan are all around the same performance. No one is beat. from there it all just depends on price.

Now it depends on where the 780TI fits in among all of that ^^^^

Pice is key, not for Nvidia but for AMD, even if AMD are slightly faster than Nvidia they need to come in cheaper as the overall Nvidia package is just too good for the gamer to resist.

Marine-RX179 · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:21

I actually very welcome Nvidia actually doing something to counter AMD. Some competition is definitely good. I don't really have any preference green or red...I could care less about who wins who loses. At the end of the day, whichever camp bring me cards with better bang for bucks, that's where my money will go. I definitely don't want to see the stupid OTT pricing like for the Titan EVER again.

I was dead-set on getting the R9 290 due to the stupid high price on Nvidia's offering, however, if Nvidia going to do something about their stupid pricing, and stop being stubborn and give their customers something that's bang for bucks (something they haven't done in a long time), I'd more than happy to consider going back to Nvidia again for my next card.

Gregster · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:22

I for one welcome our new Nvidia overlords

humbug · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:24

Suarez7 said:
Price and features, some of the things nvidia have announced will appeal to a select amount of their audience.

We will have to wait and see what that means, Nvidia thought the same thing about the $1000 Titan, i'm not saying that for some it wasn't, but then it had no competition.

Not the case now, it would be nice if they have an R9 290X level GPU for the same sort of money, i'm just not convinced thats what they mean by "will appeal to a select amount of their audience"

Tho i hope i'm wrong.

Suarez7 · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:26

humbug said:
We will have to wait and see what that means, Nvidia thought the same thing about the $1000 Titan, i'm not saying that for some it wasn't, but then it had no competition.

No I mean features they've announced during this event. TITAN wasn't launched with any new features really apart from GPU boost 2.0 I believe.

nvidia have announced a lot of new software stuff in the last 2 days.

Marine-RX179 · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:26

humbug said:
Not the case now, it would be nice if they have an R9 290X level GPU for the same sort of money, i'm just not convinced thats what they mean by "will appeal to a select amount of their audience"

Tho i hope i'm wrong.

Does that mean Titan launch version 2? "Even better performance, at even more outrageousely expensive price..." God no please!

humbug · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:28

Suarez7 said:
No I mean features they've announced during this event. TITAN wasn't launched with any new features really apart from GPU boost 2.0 I believe.

nvidia have announced a lot of new software stuff in the last 2 days.

Surly that wouldn't be specific the the GTX 780TI only?

Suarez7 · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:32

humbug said:
Surly that wouldn't be specific the the GTX 780TI only?

Some of them will be specific to the newer series, certainly performance wise. It's a selling point for their new cards that's for sure.

humbug · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:37

Suarez7 said:
Some of them will be, certainly performance wise. It's a selling point for their new cards that's for sure.

Ok, i didn't watch the whole thing, do you think that will make them good value for money, and what about those with the original Titan and 780?

Marine-RX179 · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:38

Marine-RX179 said:
I actually very welcome Nvidia actually doing something to counter AMD. Some competition is definitely good. I don't really have any preference green or red...I could care less about who wins who loses. At the end of the day, whichever camp bring me cards with better bang for bucks, that's where my money will go. I definitely don't want to see the stupid OTT pricing like for the Titan EVER again.

I was dead-set on getting the R9 290 due to the stupid high price on Nvidia's offering, however, if Nvidia going to do something about their stupid pricing, and stop being stubborn and give their customers something that's bang for bucks (something they haven't done in a long time), I'd more than happy to consider going back to Nvidia again for my next card.

Hm...after cooling down a bit from the excitment, it got me thinking again...

Didn't Sony do the same thing announcing PS2 "will be launched" when DreamCast was launch, and keep saying it's coming it's coming staling time and the damn new console didn't come till nearly a year later?

Don't get me wrong, at this point we are only going by Nvidia's word, and staling for time isn't exactly anything new for them (remember Fermi?)

I was dead-set on getting the 290, but now I ain't too sure with this Nvidia's announcement.

Suarez7 · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:38

humbug said:
Ok, i didn't watch the whole thing, do you think that will make them good value for money, and what about those with the original Titan and 780?

Well value for money depends entirely on what you want from a card, I'd imagine the new features will work on current 7 series and TITAN and maybe even older kepler cards. They mentioned kepler a lot.

tayto_0 · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:42

Suarez7 said:
One things for sure nvidia have certainly thrown a spanner in the works of potential 290x buyers who are sitting on the edge.

Changes nothing for me tbh in fact some of the comments with regard to G-Sync made me lol...talk about getting carried away!

If the 290x comes in at the right price and meets my expectations performance-wise compared to my Titan then i'll be picking up two.

So it's up to AMD whether i buy the 290X or not. Nothing i've heard from Nvidia changes that...yet

humbug · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:45

G-Sync? ^^^^

Suarez7 said:
Well value for money depends entirely on what you want from a card, I'd imagine the new features will work on current 7 series and TITAN and maybe even older kepler cards. They mentioned kepler a lot.

For me its about getting the best performance for my money, features is something that you get from both sides even if they may be different features.

So its basically, how fast? how much?

Suarez7 · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:45

tayto_0 said:
Changes nothing for me tbh in fact some of the comments with regard to G-Sync made me lol...talk about getting carried away!

Hardly getting carried away when some of the biggest faces in the industry said it was game changing.

If you want carried away look at mantle, nobody has seen it, nothing and people were going mad about it.

humbug said:
For me its about getting the best performance for my money, features is something that you get from both sides even if they may be different features.

So its basically, how fast? how much?

For you yes, you can't get some future nvidia features on AMD cards though, watch both presentations from today and yesterday and you'll see what I mean.

Hixxy0 · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:50

they should have called it n-sync

that would have been awesome!

tayto_0 · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:50

Suarez7 said:
If you want carried away look at mantle, nobody has seen it, nothing and people were going mad about it.

Agreed. I'll believe it when i see it.

humbug · 18 Oct 2013 at 17:51

Suarez7 said:
Hardly getting carried away when some of the biggest faces in the industry said it was game changing.

If you want carried away look at mantle, nobody has seen it, nothing and people were going mad about it.

For you yes, you can't get some future nvidia features on AMD cards though, watch both presentations from today and yesterday and you'll see what I mean.

Features is a matter of perspective, AMD's Mantle and Whatever features Nvidia have will get judged on their own merrits when these things become available.

Mantle is not yet a reason for me to buy AMD instead of Nvidia, and vice versa.