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NVIDIA PsyOps Against HD 7970
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Why no Nvidia for you?
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I know what you are saying, I'm in no way justifying the price, just that they can charge that, because right now it is the best single GPU you can slot into your PC. Not in a month or two, maybe next quarter or by the end of the year but now. There is no competition. The semiconductor business is a funny one, the more it changes the more it stays the same!
In three months time the 7970 will probably be £380 or so, the 7950 £299 and some bargainous 7870/50s at £150 and £199. Nvidia will have the Fastest Card on the Planet ™ at £449.99 and the status quo will be restored
Last time we had a situation like this was the 5870, AMD dominated but priced fairly.
This time around they're completely taking advantage, it's all well and good having the better card, but jeez.
In 2010 the GTX580 launched around 400 quid, now in 2012 we have a card that's 450 quid and 20-30% faster on situation? Absolutely disgusting as a consumers point of view.
My concern is Nvidia just price higher than AMD, rather than battling it out, in a mind blowing display of "Lets both destroy the consumer"
Even if it was released maxed out, it's gaining say, 20% extra performance. While that then puts it a very nice 40-50% performance over the 580, it's lost its headroom, we all saw just how much headroom the 470's and 480's had if you could keep them cool, there's no reason to assume Nvidia won't have the same headroom, along with the extra performance already.
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I googled it after I asked the question( I am lazy sometimes)
Its Kyro2.
Something called "tiled deferred rendering"
I had one. Was a good card. They were a flash in the pan, however, in the discrete gfx card arena. After the KyroII they bowed out.
My concern is Nvidia just price higher than AMD, rather than battling it out, in a mind blowing display of "Lets both destroy the consumer"
The market won't bear that, things are only worth what people will pay so if either want to sell anything they have to bait the hook
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The market won't bear that, things are only worth what people will pay so if either want to sell anything they have to bait the hook
Which we're seeing already, a graphic card release such as this and a plethora of cards in stock at E-tailers
I was just being uber paranoid, as both companies have stupid moments.
I do remember them competing well against my Geforce2 GTS, but because they lacked a certain feature (may have been a transform+lighting engine, or a certain pixel shader feature cant remember to well as it is like 11+ years ago) they struggled in newer games and latest Madonion 3Dmark at the time.
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My concern is Nvidia just price higher than AMD, rather than battling it out, in a mind blowing display of "Lets both destroy the consumer"
Fortunately, no one needs one of these £450 cards. Probably few enough even want one.
The market won't bear that, things are only worth what people will pay so if either want to sell anything they have to bait the hook
This.
I think Nvidia could get away with £600 of its more powerful than the 7970, or they could do it for £450 which is what the 580 sits at now and totally screw AMD over, this is presuming they have something better.
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There's no reason they won't have a better card than the 7970.
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Do you think the "high end" single gpu Kepler will be overclockable to be able to compete with a GTX590 dual gpu?
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Reason I ask is that you can overclock the HD7970 to beat GTX590's in benchmarks and games. I think the reason Nvidia are taking so long to release is that their card is phail.
At the same time there's no reason to say they will
I think it'll be roughly on par with the 590.
I mean, the 7970 at stock isnt too far off.
Maybe a super card but low yields?
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I'd have to say you're quite the AMD fanboy.
At the same time there's no reason to say they will
Is the 5XX and 6XXX GPU series the only one you've really know?
Yep. Haven't got a clue about anything that came before that.
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Thought so, you say some ridiculous things at times.
Which is how I guessed.
Whilst Nvidia normally pwn AMD, doesn't mean they will this time.
Ok, it does, but I'm just arguing for te sake of it now!
Goodnight
28mn chip fabrication isn't easy. Doing and making money is near miraculous. Nvidia have some of the best people in field working on it, why don't you show them how it's done?