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Nvidia Roadmaps Turn Up
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Damn stright.
Had to order new riot gear after this past week. The set I originally bought was battered to pieces.
Hence the Waders to walk through his personal injected Phlegm to find the worth while bits.
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They have to get the gt300 ready in numbers for the end of January, but going of that, it looks that Nvidia arn't even sure about this happening.
Obama may need to rush another bail out plan through congress.
Why damage the company more with the renaming thing again ? Why not just save the money, sit tight and come back with new cards ?
Obama may need to rush another bail out plan through congress.
Why damage the company more with the renaming thing again ? Why not just save the money, sit tight and come back with new cards ?
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D12U is the 512SP GT300... theres also 384 and 480SP models banded about but I think that was when they thought they were on target for going head to head with the 57xx launch... (and keeping the ultra "in the wings"). Launch date is roughly March 2010.
Most of the other models are die shrunk 200 series that may or may not include "DX10.1" its looking like the mainstream parts will merely include a "sub-set" of the DX11 feature set as nVidia has nothing in this area otherwise. Not to mention the G92 still rearing its semi ugly head.
So basically that tells us nothing we didn't already know.
Most of the other models are die shrunk 200 series that may or may not include "DX10.1" its looking like the mainstream parts will merely include a "sub-set" of the DX11 feature set as nVidia has nothing in this area otherwise. Not to mention the G92 still rearing its semi ugly head.
So basically that tells us nothing we didn't already know.
Unless nVidia is blowing a smoke screen to let ATI get complacent - that is really not going to happen.
The only way that is going to be effective is that people don't think that its going to happen.
If it does all the better as it puts more pressure on the pricing from both camps sooner rather than later.
Well if its come out in ultra form - it will automatically be more than twice as fast as the 285GTX at the same clock speed as it has 512 SP and a healthy increase in ROPs, etc. Keep in mind that the SPs on it are automatically ~30% faster than those on the 200 series due to the changes in architecture and with the inclusion of MIMD it can potentially hit 2-4x the performance in single precision and even bigger gains in double precision.
So performance wise the jump is likely to be massive... price wise... is also likely to be massive :S
Interestingly enough it looks like they are planning to take what would have been the GT212 up against the 5870 - with a 60-70% performance increase over the current 200 series and possibly an extension to the DX10 feature set on the core - tho it still won't be DX11. Looks like that will be something of a monster too in power consumption and price tho... looks like it'll be another case of go ATI to get 70-80% of the performance for a lot less money.
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ATI could instantly hit back with whole range of faster and cheaper DX11 cards when more DX11 games are on the shelves and a shed load of users are running Win 7.
Trying to prop up the high end with faster DX10 cards at this point will be the work of a retarded person. 80% faster DX10 will still = the same as it does now, nothing, as its dead and will be even more dead come March. Unless its A DX10.1 card, that might put up a fight and keep them hanging in the mid range for a while.
Trying to prop up the high end with faster DX10 cards at this point will be the work of a retarded person. 80% faster DX10 will still = the same as it does now, nothing, as its dead and will be even more dead come March. Unless its A DX10.1 card, that might put up a fight and keep them hanging in the mid range for a while.
Yeah you'd have to be an idiot to buy the 212... wildly speculating but if they do make it "DX10.1" which still hasn't been confirmed - it won't be DX10.1 like on ATI cards but extensions to the feature set to make it "DX11" compatible in the short term... prolly by agressively working the way its meant to be played platform to get developers to include vendor specific render paths for features not supported under vanilla DX10.
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Even if ATI refresh their cards, DX11 won't truley kick in until games start using it. We will still be looking at DX9/10 performance. Could Nvidia improve in DX9/10 performance but sit back until 4xx for their DX11 card. Is the 3xx definatly gonna be DX11?
GT300 is deff. DX11.
The only way nVidia is gonna get away with the 200 refresh going against the 58xx series is if they massively slash the prices... which I don't see happening as teh cards are basically massively souped up versions of whats out now... and if they did they'd have to make it up on the 300 series... which would push up already high prices.
The only way nVidia is gonna get away with the 200 refresh going against the 58xx series is if they massively slash the prices... which I don't see happening as teh cards are basically massively souped up versions of whats out now... and if they did they'd have to make it up on the 300 series... which would push up already high prices.
No developer in there right mind is going to take that and run with it.
-Nvidia-
"Right Guys, remember all that DX10 is a waste time now because we think ATI can do it better talk ?"
-Dev-
Yes ?
-Nvidia-
Well take all that and throw it away, just throw it away... never happened.. just a bad dream.
Dev
OK...
-Nvidia-
Well we've got this DX10 card and we're going to build a DX10.1 but not a proper spec dx10.1 card out of it and we wont you to write DX11 games for this.
-Dev-
ARE YOU ******** NUTS !
Some one help me throw this guy out the window.
By the time the bugs have been ironed out we would be buying DX12 cards and Intel's hostile take over would have been completed.
-Nvidia-
"Right Guys, remember all that DX10 is a waste time now because we think ATI can do it better talk ?"
-Dev-
Yes ?
-Nvidia-
Well take all that and throw it away, just throw it away... never happened.. just a bad dream.
Dev
OK...
-Nvidia-
Well we've got this DX10 card and we're going to build a DX10.1 but not a proper spec dx10.1 card out of it and we wont you to write DX11 games for this.
-Dev-
ARE YOU ******** NUTS !
Some one help me throw this guy out the window.
By the time the bugs have been ironed out we would be buying DX12 cards and Intel's hostile take over would have been completed.
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Well as I said its only DX9/10 performance for the forseeable future until games use DX11. If the 5 series is only 1.6 times as fast surely a beefed up 2 series should be able to compete with that including the price hike.