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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

Wow I feel so fortunate to be alive during the historic release of the 50 series! This is stuff for the history books! It's going to be talked about for years and years to come, for all the wrong reasons, and I was here to witness it!
 
5070 Founders Edition

@Subliminal Aura it's up...

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-founders-edition/

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Ok so 22% faster than the 4070 and 5% faster than the 4070 Super in raster.
15% faster than the 4070 and 1% faster than the 4070 Super in RT.

Its not bad, its also not great, if the 9070 XT is = to 5070 Ti in raster then i think the 9070 is = to 4070 Ti Super.
In RT i think the 9070 XT will beat it by 15% and the 9070 match it in RT, even in Cyberpunk.

If like all other 50 series its only available 20% above MSRP its DOA.
 
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Ok so 22% faster than the 4070 and 5% faster than the 4070 Super in raster.
15% faster than the 4070 and 1% faster than the 4070 Super in RT.

Its not bad, its also not great, if the 9070 XT is = to 5070 Ti in raster then i think the 9070 is = to 4070 Ti Super.
In RT i think the 9070 XT will beat it by 15% and the 9070 match it in RT, even in Cyberpunk.

If like all other 50 series its only available 20% above MSRP its DOA.

It's making me wonder if we're going to have another 3060ti to 4060ti situation, we may end up having 3 generations of the 60 class cards with no tangible improvement.

Going to be an interesting battle in the entry market, intel cards 5060s vs 9060s
 
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It's making me wonder if we're going to have another 3060ti to 4060ti situation, we may end up having 3 generations of the 60 class cards with no tangible improvement.

Going to be an interesting battle in the entry market, intel cards 5060s vs 9060s

Yeah its going to be 4060/Ti +10%, so 3070/Ti. Mental...
 
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I really wonder what made Jensen think he could make such a massive lie (or "fake truth", just like their frames) on stage, in public and the internet.

Arrogance and hubris.

Don't forget this folks.

He has 90% marketshare, its not hubris, he knows people will fight over the scraps he gives us while insulting us from the side-lines, is he wrong?
 
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Wow I feel so fortunate to be alive during the historic release of the 50 series! This is stuff for the history books! It's going to be talked about for years and years to come, for all the wrong reasons, and I was here to witness it!

Something has to usurp the 20 series and now we have it..

I really wonder what made Jensen think he could make such a massive lie (or "fake truth", just like their frames) on stage, in public and the internet.

Arrogance and hubris.

Don't forget this folks.

Well he does seem to think people have $10,000 pc command centres...
 
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He has 90% marketshare, its not hubris, he knows people will fight over the scraps he gives us while insulting us from the side-lines, is he wrong?

Having a 90% market share doesn't give individuals or companies the right or immunity from lying. There's laws against that.

Imagine if you bought a VW car a few years ago on the basis that VW advertised it as being low on emissions.....
 
Just in case anybody makes the same mistake
I tend to look at Cyberpunk performance first, since its the only game I play out of usual benchmarking suite.
And thought what a nice card, might get one.
Apparently the built in benchmark for cp2077 really likes gpu memory bandwidth and the 5070 doesn't look half bad, matching 4070Ti Super! Except that canned benchmark is not the game. In actual gameplay its behind 4070 non-Ti super (HUB) :(

What a waste of gpu generation
 
I don't think that's entirely correct. I thought the 9070XT trailed 10-15% behind the 5070TI in RT
Someone please correct me if I have the wrong data
we will find out tomorrow afternoon with the real reviews but they are not competing it the same space since the 5070ti is 20% + in price , the standard 5070 is what its competing with
 
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Having a 90% market share doesn't give individuals or companies the right or immunity from lying. There's laws against that.

Imagine if you bought a VW car a few years ago on the basis that VW advertised it as being low on emissions.....
He did state that it’s impossible without AI right after a long pause for the people cheering the 4090 performance for $550 though :cry:

Which would cover him no doubt

I am in no way defending the tactic..
 
we will find out tomorrow afternoon with the real reviews but they are not competing it the same space since the 5070ti is 20% + in price , the standard 5070 is what its competing with
The problem for AMD was that in terms of MSRP the 5070 is going up against the 9070 non XT which I expect will also get underwhelming reviews.
 
Mid range seems to have totally died, when they roll out the 5060 we can assess the entry range but to say there has been stagnation is a huge understatement.
 
Mid range seems to have totally died, when they roll out the 5060 we can assess the entry range but to say there has been stagnation is a huge understatement.
Nvidia is gatekeeping performance and trying to force people to pay more if they want an upgrade, it’s largely working as well, how many times do you see people saying I upgraded from a 3060ti to 4070ti/5070ti or a 3070 to 5080 etc.
 
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