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Nvidia RTX 60 series - what is going to happen?

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I'm wondering, after seeing 50 series being a total crap performance wise compared to prev series - what can we expect from next one?
Is there any possible way that Nvidia will pull itself together and make proper new iteration that will bring better performance jump than 50x did?
 
Same.


If AI goes pop maybe, if not: I doubt it.
I hope not, I mean technologically - can they pull it out? Is there a margin that they could make like at least 50% performance gain next gen cards? Or is there no margin for it and we are done?
They cannot go smaller die as much as they did in the past, is there anything else they can do? Nvidia - stop the ***ing supersampling, DLSS etc - I want pure performance, not making frames up.
 
The same thing will happen. They'll trot out a 15-20% increase in performance for the same increase in price and limit supply/not be able to build enough of them so prices will rise again and you'll be paying £1,500 for a 6080 class card. AND YOU WILL STILL BUY THEM.
 
Is there a margin that they could make like at least 50% performance gain next gen cards? Or is there no margin for it and we are done?
They could, but why would they? There's no meaningful competition and they're less interested in the gaming market than ever.
 
The same thing will happen. They'll trot out a 15-20% increase in performance for the same increase in price and limit supply/not be able to build enough of them so prices will rise again and you'll be paying £1,500 for a 6080 class card. AND YOU WILL STILL BUY THEM.
I won't. This year for first time in my life I think (at least in last 30 years) I bought AMD card. I stopped being a green side fan, decided that enough is enough, my a-hole hurts after all those years with ngreedia :D
9070XT is fine, huge like a brick, but its fine. For £569 I could not get anything near that performance from green side.
 
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I won't. This year for first time in my life I think (at least in last 30 years) I bought AMD card. I stopped being a green side fan, decided that enough is enough, my a-hole hurts after all those years with ngreedia :D
9070XT is fine, huge like a brick, but its fine. For £569 I could not get anything near that performance from green side.
Funnily enough I also went Red for the first time in about 18 years, maybe even more actually. For the same reasons you stated, I just couldn't get anywhere close to the performance per price of the 9070XT. It replaced a 3080 10GB.
 
Funnily enough I also went Red for the first time in about 18 years, maybe even more actually. For the same reasons you stated, I just couldn't get anywhere close to the performance per price of the 9070XT. It replaced a 3080 10GB.
Cool. I mean, I always liked nvidia, but the last series was a laugh, I had to replace my 3070FE, wanted 5070 but come on - it was barely an upgrade. I sold my 3070 for £300 and extra £269 gave me HUGE perf jump.
My frustration was even higher, as I skipped 40 series and thought 50 will bring good perf jump - such a huge disappointment...
 
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hasnt it all slowed down due to die shrinks becoming ever more difficult, I thought that was at the centre of it but maybe I am wrong on that.
 
hasnt it all slowed down due to die shrinks becoming ever more difficult, I thought that was at the centre of it but maybe I am wrong on that.
Yeah, I think that was it. So far for years they gained performance by die shrink. Now they make up things cause they cannot do anything more in that area.
Bring back dual chip GPUs, or SLI! :D
 
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It'll just get more expensive and smaller gains each gen, there's no reason for them to do anything else.
obviously, gamers will pay what ever nvidia throw out, they dont need to stretch themselves any more, only thing that will be diffferent is more vram. but they obviously charge lots more, which gamers will just say thank you, you just have to admire the company what they have done tbf
 
Should actually be a decent jump in performance for the next gen if you measure performance per die size assuming they use tsmc of course.

However looking historically that just gives Nvidia the chance to sell us a smaller cut down chip and give us 20% performance uplift whilst they increase their profit margin.
 
Doubt it, we seem to be pushing the envelope of what’s possible at the moment, there’s no competition and AI is bringing in a stack of cash, so less desire to push already diminishing returns.
 
So what? We are looking at the end of PC gaming? Cause soon, in 5-10 years maybe they gonna stop releasing better performance gpus?
 
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Cool. I mean, I always liked nvidia, but the last series was a laugh, I had to replace my 3070FE, wanted 5070 but come on - it was barely an upgrade. I sold my 3070 for £300 and extra £269 gave me HUGE perf jump.
My frustration was even higher, as I skipped 40 series and thought 50 will bring good perf jump - such a huge disappointment...
In all fairness a 5070 would still have been a big jump over a 3070.

Considering you can get a 5070 for 500 atm and a 9070XT's will cost around 640ish at cheapest, it's only you who can decide if that 140 is worth the difference.
 
So what? We are looking at the end of PC gaming? Cause soon, in 5-10 years maybe they gonna stop releasing better performance gpus?
The use of AI/upscaling (including in path/ray tracing techniques, for example) will be a bigger differentiator than raw performance/raster, Jensen has already suggested this. We're seeing it already, but there's still a lot of room to improve/optimise.
 
In all fairness a 5070 would still have been a big jump over a 3070.

Considering you can get a 5070 for 500 atm and a 9070XT's will cost around 640ish at cheapest, it's only you who can decide if that 140 is worth the difference.
I disagree. 5070 was what supposed to 4070 be to 3070.
 
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