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Nvidia TDR problem **possible fix!**

Boycey0211

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Right, to outline i've been suffering with this issue for ages now (since the BF3 drivers were released Nov 11) and I'm sick of it. Ive been trying to find a cause apart from bad drivers and I cant seem to find an issue in my system anywhere using the guides on the Nvidia forums as a troubleshooting guide.

So, apparently it is a windows issue, you can edit a registry value to set the TDR recovery to 0, so that it never tries to fix what aint broke so to speak.

I have tried it and it seems to work for me, but if anyone else it having issues it6 may be worth a try, let others know if it works! So here it is:

**From desktop**
Start>Programs>Accessories>Run
Type regedit then click OK
Goto HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
Then HARDWARE
Then DEVICEMAP
Then VIDEO

In the video folder find the file type REG_DWORD
Right click it and click Modify
Set its value to 0
That should stop it from TDRing apparently

Like I say this seems to work for me, and I have had no adverse effects from setting this value to 0, but if anyone finds this to have ill effects or not to work please say

Good luck and I hope this works!
 
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Boycey0211 said:
Right, to outline i've been suffering with this issue for ages now (since the BF3 drivers were released Nov 11) and I'm sick of it. Ive been trying to find a cause apart from bad drivers and I cant seem to find an issue in my system anywhere using the guides on the Nvidia forums as a troubleshooting guide.

So, apparently it is a windows issue, you can edit a registry value to set the TDR recovery to 0, so that it never tries to fix what aint broke so to speak.

I have tried it and it seems to work for me, but if anyone else it having issues it6 may be worth a try, let others know if it works! So here it is:

**From desktop**
Start>Programs>Accessories>Run
Type regedit then click OK
Goto HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
Then HARDWARE
Then DEVICEMAP
Then VIDEO

In the video folder find the file type RED_DWORD
Right click it and click Modify
Set its value to 0
That should stop it from TDRing apparently

Like I say this seems to work for me, and I have had no adverse effects from setting this value to 0, but if anyone finds this to have ill effects or not to work please say

Good luck and I hope this works!
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It should read REG_DWORD
 
this isnt a fix, its more of a workaround and a dodgey one at that.

if the driver stops responding a TDR will occur and the driver is reset. no TDR will most likley result in a BSOD when the driver crashes.
 
opethdisciple said:
But why have Nvidia or Microsoft not dealt wit this issue?
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I have never had a TDR on any of my machines I built or even the laptops.

I have a bad feeling it is a sign of bad hardware, hardware compatibility or a sign of a system that can't run well if overclocked or does not have a good PSU.


TDR = Timeout Detection and Recovery

Timeout Detection and Recovery (TDR)

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff570087(v=vs.85).aspx

Limiting Repetitive GPU Hangs and Recoveries

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff568187(v=vs.85).aspx

TDR Error Messaging

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff569917(v=vs.85).aspx

TDR Registry Keys

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff569918(v=vs.85).aspx

This may help some track the problems with TDR's too.

You can use the following TDR-related registry keys for testing or debugging purposes only. That is, they should not be manipulated by any applications outside targeted testing or debugging.
 
thanks, edited. And I have no idea why this hasnt been sorted yet, its been going on for ages and Nvidia keep saying theyre looking into it, yet new and beta drivers still have the issue for me.

And TDR is timeout detection and recovery, windows finds a 'fault' with the card and tries to reset it, leading to system lockups of varying descriptions.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
this isnt a fix, its more of a workaround and a dodgey one at that.

if the driver stops responding a TDR will occur and the driver is reset. no TDR will most likley result in a BSOD when the driver crashes.
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Agree it is just turning off the error and in some cases the system will just hang or show now video and if the TDR was enabled it may have had a chance at recovering. Not really a good fix but it depends what is triggering the TDR for him. He may find the problem has not really gone yet and he will see as I state system hangs and no video.
 
Purgatory said:
I have never had a TDR on any of my machines I built or even the laptops.

I have a bad feeling it is a sign of bad hardware, hardware compatibility or a sign of a system that can't run well if overclocked or does not have a good PSU.


TDR = Timeout Detection and Recovery

Timeout Detection and Recovery (TDR)

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff570087(v=vs.85).aspx

Limiting Repetitive GPU Hangs and Recoveries

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff568187(v=vs.85).aspx

TDR Error Messaging

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff569917(v=vs.85).aspx

TDR Registry Keys

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff569918(v=vs.85).aspx

This may help some track the problems with TDR's too.

You can use the following TDR-related registry keys for testing or debugging purposes only. That is, they should not be manipulated by any applications outside targeted testing or debugging.
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To be honest I never had any issues with older drivers, it was as soon as I updated with the BF3 drivers I had issues, card isnt overclocked and has a 1000w PSU supplying it, bearing in mind its a lot of 'normal' users experiencing problems too, and across multiple cards
 
Purgatory said:
Agree it is just turning off the error and in some cases the system will just hang or show now video and if the TDR was enabled it may have had a chance at recovering. Not really a good fix but it depends what is triggering the TDR for him. He may find the problem has not really gone yet and he will see as I state system hangs and no video.
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fair point, will wait and see, but at the moment its the only thing working for me.
 
The only time I've had TDR is when running kombustor with my overclocks too high. Typically the memory on my 580, which won't go above 2020Mhz for some reason :(.
 
update: no it doesn't work, still borked. Basically got a £1500 paperweight until this is sorted, or I buy a 680 whichever is first :( Might enter the olympics and see how far I can shotputt this pos card :( wish I could roll back 7 months and have a fully working pc again
 
Cyber-Mav said:
this isnt a fix, its more of a workaround and a dodgey one at that.

if the driver stops responding a TDR will occur and the driver is reset. no TDR will most likley result in a BSOD when the driver crashes.
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+1

If you see several of my posts on this issue (and this also effects AMD), I have given the same fix and stated it is only a temporary fix to an underlying problem.

For most of the cases, it is generally Driver or volts problem however this fix does work for some.
 
Well if you revert to pre-bf3 drivers and havo no problem then it's either:
- broken driver (for you) and nvidia need to fix it
- or nvidia have better fault detection built in ? Your hardware is not functionimg correctly
 
Vir said:
Well if you revert to pre-bf3 drivers and havo no problem then it's either:
- broken driver (for you) and nvidia need to fix it
- or nvidia have better fault detection built in ? Your hardware is not functionimg correctly
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WHS
If it appears to be a driver issue that does not affect others commonly, it's more likely to be a hardware issue of some sort.
 
A TDR during gaming and the infamous TDR on the desktop are two different issues.

The TDR on the desktop while doing practically nothing is the issue that has gained most notoriety on forums.
 
TDR is a mysterious problem.

I used to have a lot of them with my 5970.

Since going nVidia (580 and now 680), I have not had one.

However, the various Red/Green forums are littered with folks who do.

I hope that they get to the bottom of it. I know first hand how frustrating it is.

AM.
 
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