Usual people crying over spilt milk before the bottles even hit the deck.
Always nice to hear some nice hard clarification. Isn't that right, DM?
This is a good moment to reflect for the people that give Charlie 100 dollars a year to read absolute........
Jesus.
It's hilarious, AMD guys tell you a public SDK is coming AND it makes zero logical sense for them to not do one as it locks them out of the market.. making all their spending on Mantle worthless but you take it as hard fact that they won't be doing this despite being told they will repeatedly by everyone at AMD who has spoken about it.
Nvidia, the least reliable source on earth in these terms say something they removed from their own roadmap without mentioning, with a NEW product in it's place for in a years time, that an entire 2 months ago was non existent. Nvidia SAY it's on track therefore it is with you.
Crying over split milk? How many people were in the GTC Nvidia thread who didn't even notice Parker missing, then Charlie writes an article, wait for it.....
entitled "
DID Nvidia just cancel Denver
?"
Look on Charlie's site, check Anandtech, the former has asked similar questions when similar products disappear off AMD/Intel/anyone elses roadmaps, and Anandtech(and many other sites) questioned what happened to Parker.
The only people crying over spilt milk, where Nvidia fan boys who didn't like the idea that maybe Nvidia screwed up, everyone else was merely wondering what happened to Parker.
Lets add a little something else, Denver is a project, the first only Denver project is Parker, that went missing. If you read what I said in regards to Charlie's article you might have a firmer grip on reality. I said it was odd but could mean many things, it could simply mean an industry slide on 16nm process, it could mean an Nvidia problem with 16nm, or it could be a problem with Denver.
Considering 20nm parts from multiple companies are due this year, considering K1 32bit non Denver parts are due in a couple months on 28nm and considering K1 64bit Denver parts are due "H2 2014" which most people took to mean Q4 at least, on 28nm, probably 3-6 months after other companies have 20nm parts. It never looked like anything except a test vehicle for Denver. Having Denver cores in a low volume late to market "last gen" process screams test vehicle for the chip. There is nothing wrong with that at all, but it always looked like it was going to be a niche product, likely hitting something like Shield or maybe a big tablet or something.
A test vehicle being "on track" if Nvidia is to be believed says precisely nothing and confirms nothing about Parker, or about Denver's future as a core.
Nvidia could even release K1 Denver's, release Parker in 2 years, and still have decided already to can the Denver project for being too expensive or not good enough.
Hard confirmation.... lol, there is not a single chance in hell you would believe AMD if they posted a story saying "this unreleased thing is definitely still on track because we say so".
You go out of your way to make illogical arguments to disagree with everything AMD say.
I'll believe Parker isn't cancelled when Parker launches, simple as that, not because Nvidia tell me something is on track or definitely going to be released. If it's not cancelled why remove it from the product line up. If it's been delayed by 6 months why not put it on the roadmap 6 months later. Is it that hard to add 6 months on to a roadmap that spanned several years? How are they releasing an entirely different chip in around a years time, yet apparently knew nothing about it 2 months ago when Parker was claimed to be on track. Lastly, 2 months ago Nvidia said Parker was on track via their roadmap, and now they say it's delayed......but Nvidia saying something is on track is infallible, really?
When I hear Nvidia "confirm" something about a future product I simply say to myself, true or Fermi.
EDIT:- PS Anandtech gave Charlie credit for calling exactly what Denver was 2 years before Nvidia announced what kind of chip it was(ultra wide core with instruction translation hardware, which is extremely out of the norm and you can't "guess" that kind of thing at all). That is Charlie who got grief from the likes of you over said Denver article for two years being called wrong, then turned out to be right. I remember the grief he got over the Fermi supercomputer he said was delayed and/or cancelled. Nvidia sent out press releases saying it wasn't and all the rabid fan boys on here insisted he was wrong because Nvidia said so... then 6 months later it turned out the super computer was delayed by a very long time for the reasons Charlie had stated.
The big problem with Nvidia guys is they attack Charlie and insist he's wrong for months/years because Nvidia post something to promise they are on track with some product, or something isn't true, something isn't wrong. Then 6 months or 2 years later it turns out Charlie was bang on the money. But as per usual Nvidia fans simply continue saying he was always wrong. despite being FAR more accurate than any other similar tech news site.
