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NVIDIA Turbulence/did it damage hd7970?

jimhaumman

jimhaumman

jimhaumman

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Hi guys.
I bought Lord of the Fallen and I played the game with everyting on max with NVIDIA Turbulence on.(crossfire HD7970[top reference card AMD,bottom MSI TFIII]).
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During gameplay pc crashed with grey,green screen don't really remember(last week).Hard rest and pc hang few times loading windows.
Back in windows system only saw one card(MSI was missing).Restarted PC few times(still gone).Turned off pc,changed psu socket for this gpu and second gpu reappered.
I run crossifre before with max clocks 1175/1650 and it was pretty stable.
Now 1125/1600 crashes in games,benchmark.(sometimes hard reset,restart msi card missing,but turn on/off pc worked an she was back).
I tried normal clocks 925/1375,1050/1375,no success.
Tried diffrent drivers(14.9;14.9.1-had them for few months before and they worked fine,14.9.2).
Today I tested gpu invidually(disconnected psu cables to gpu,LC makes things harder,I can't take gpu out).
AMD gpu works fine stable at 1200/1600,passed benchmarks(firestrike,valley benchmark),games metro redux,tomb raider.
MSI TFIII BE- no chance to OC won't pass benchmark(hangs hard rest),tried stock still NO,underclock it to 925/1375 sometimes will finish benchmark but not always,games Metro after a while crashed with message (AMD display driver stopped working),other crashes(APPCRASH,APPHANGb1)
Internet,watching films,desktop are fine.
What else shall I tried(before I put back stock cooler) and send it for RMA.
Maybe flash bios?(link to a guide please)
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I am going to get jumped on here, but Ill bite.

So basically what you are saying is that during a gaming session playing lords of the fallen, one of your AMD video cards has thrown a wobbler and is now rather kaput.
you have then decided to come onto the forums and post up a thread that you know is going to get this sort of response.

Just why is it Nvidia's fault, there could be a million and one things that could have caused this to happen, including just damn bad luck and very few of those things would have anything to do with Nvidia. :rolleyes:
 
No mate it wasn't my intention at all.
I don't care about whole fanbois going on this or other forum.
I have a problem with the gpu,when you have one you always try describe as pricesley as possible,end of story.
Where shall I go to ask for help?Sunday Church?
Card is not kaput,cos it works ok when watching films,browsing web,desktop.
That's way I'm asking what else may I try before I'll send it to MSI,cos gpu is not dead and knowig a bit about warranty service I'd like to avoid situation when They'll just send it faulty back to me.
Belive me draing loop,putting stock cooler back,refill loop,pay for postage,it's a bit of a hassle.
 
From the thread Title "Nvidia Turbulance/did it destroy HD7970?"

There must have been something specific that made you think it was a GameWorks effect that killed your GPU? Now then, if I understand correctly, you can no longer run some games at your normal overclock? If you run at stock, sometimes it works and other times it crashes?

Have you tried running just one card?
Have you tried another PSU (this is where I would be looking)?

You will need to test properly before returning and I have a feeling it isn't your GPU but possibly your PSU, so running one card at a time will show what is what (with the GPU and PSU).
 
I'm testing only one card.(I disconnected cable from gpu,can't take cards out cos of LC)
Amd reference is fine,OC and stable.This top card (PCIE 2, 2.0 x16)
MSI bottom one is damage.Bottom card (PCI 3, 2.0 x16).
Today I tried 14.4 fresh install (only MSI connected).I lower voltage from 1,256mv (stock voltage on MSI gpu) to 1,113mv(stock voltage on reference card),underclock core 1050mhz to 925mhz.
Played Metro Last Night for 8min,crash back to windows,tried fire strike extreme and right from the start artifacts on the screen(the same one when you get your core clock to high during overclocking)

I think psu is fine(change sockect,AMD referece works fine on the same sockect),before run them in crossfire on 1175/1650 no problems.
 
So you are lowering the voltage and it is crashing? Have you tried upping the voltage and seeing if it still crashes?
 
Stock voltage on this MSI is quite high 1,256mv compare to amd reference 1,113mv (I only need 1,2mv for 1200mhzOC).
When I lowered voltage on MSI it started passing benchmark fire strike,valley.Before with stock voltge it wouldn't passed them.
I had profile in msi afterburner for crossfire where they both worked: undevolt to 1,05mv and underclock to 925/1375Mhz.
I tried 1,3mV and it crashes faster than on lower voltage.
 
This is hard to decipher....

Right, you got the MSI and popped it into your machine and ran the bench test, of which it passed when you lowered the voltage? Or did it pass at stock?

I am struggling a little on what is what in truth, as you are upping and lowering voltages and not making much sense.

Put everything in the computer at stock. Remove the Reference card/disable the reference card and only connect up the MSI card. If it is still crashing, do a complete clean install of drivers. (use Display Driver Uninstaller)

Try another PSU (beg borrow steal) if it still does it.
 
1.Yes,lower voltage card pass,increase to 1,3mv crashed after 30sec.(APPCRASH white dots on the screen).valley benchmark.
2.I'm testing both cards separatatly.disconnecting psu cables.
3.I did it 14.9.2;14.9.1;14,9 and 14,4 today.Always install them with msi only conncted to psu.Where MSI always crashed.
Then to exclude that's driver,psu,software,any other hardware fault I connected AMD reference seperatley (disconnected MSI),didn't even bother to fresh install,and the card works without a problem.
4.PSU I'll try but this is my last suspect on the list.
 
Cheers anyway Gregster.
Biggest disaster if I send it back to them,and they send it back to me with replay:
"Unauthorized changes of non MSI parts, modifications or alterations , parts removal in or to the products"
I got all the stickers in place,even that little one on core screw.
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FLASH BIOS ??Try it before I send it back?
 
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Update.
Card is fine and still going strong.
The problem was that the waterblocks I bought were second hand.
One of the screw whole (core area) where slighty bent,so i didn't get flash contact with core.
Gpu was working fine for six months(but thermal paste during that time move to one side,when I took waterblock off,30% wasn't cover with paste)
So core was partial overheating,which cos the problem.
Now when the block is properly beded I even getting better OC (1175mhz up to 1220mhz core),and the temps. dropped on the card few degrees
 
Good stuff. A few guys would have liked it to have been nVidia Turbulence that ruined your card but gladly, it was an ill fitting block :D

Nice one :)
 
Lucky the card wasn't damaged permanently. Least it's all sorted now and better than ever.

Gregster said:
Good stuff. A few guys would have liked it to have been nVidia Turbulence that ruined your card but gladly, it was an ill fitting block :D

Nice one :)
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haha Yeah the OP never explained about that one:confused:.
 
Yeah,sorry to all Nvidia fanboys.
It was never my intention to put Nvidia in bad light.(it was coincidence I was playing Lords of the Fallen at the time ,and the card decided to whent bonkers)
 
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