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I feel like it's one of these things where there is little difference and probably boils down to brand loyalty or whatever you think looks best. I'm still not decided on tubing either, if the PC isn't going to be in view then I may just go for that bendy black stuff.
Can't figure out how this pump and or reservoir is mounted on this photo. Would probably help if I actually got my case out to look.
Also this is putting me off having two chunky radiators, he said it was VERY tight to build with them so Might just compromise on size.
Can't figure out how this pump and or reservoir is mounted on this photo. Would probably help if I actually got my case out to look.
Also this is putting me off having two chunky radiators, he said it was VERY tight to build with them so Might just compromise on size.
Soldato
The mounting screws look nice
On that techn block
As they don't really protrude like thumbscrews
But that means you're going to need
A specific tool like an Allen key
All very well when you first build it but
You'll be hunting for it months later if want to do some maintenance
And could be a PITA to undo the screws once the PC is fully installed
Vertical gpu etc in your way
Never mind if you ever slip and round one off inside
But yeah probably a couple degrees difference
From my old xspc am4 raystorm neo block
Which cost about half the price
You're probably correct above a certain price point
It's more about aesthetics and the actual company involved
Than paying extra for sheer performance
That black bendy stuff lol
Certainly easier than rigid Tubing
If you're not going to see it anyways
Can't see how that's mounted
As pictures too dark
But usually you can use fan mounting points
Ek (probably others too) do uni fan mounts of different shapes
Letting you mount pump/res combos
Onto fan points or radiators even if fans are fitted on the rad
Though may need longer screws then
But basically anywhere there's screw holes
Or anywhere you can drill a hole you can mount it
I got some little z shaped aluminium brackets from ocuk Clearance section
Really small but very strong (xspc I think they might have been)
And used those to mount stuff in places you weren't meant to
Pair of mole grips and some force bent them into a different shape too
If required
It's not custom watercooling
If you don't drill,dremel,cut etc lol
On that techn block
As they don't really protrude like thumbscrews
But that means you're going to need
A specific tool like an Allen key
All very well when you first build it but
You'll be hunting for it months later if want to do some maintenance
And could be a PITA to undo the screws once the PC is fully installed
Vertical gpu etc in your way
Never mind if you ever slip and round one off inside
But yeah probably a couple degrees difference
From my old xspc am4 raystorm neo block
Which cost about half the price
You're probably correct above a certain price point
It's more about aesthetics and the actual company involved
Than paying extra for sheer performance
That black bendy stuff lol
Certainly easier than rigid Tubing
If you're not going to see it anyways
Can't see how that's mounted
As pictures too dark
But usually you can use fan mounting points
Ek (probably others too) do uni fan mounts of different shapes
Letting you mount pump/res combos
Onto fan points or radiators even if fans are fitted on the rad
Though may need longer screws then
But basically anywhere there's screw holes
Or anywhere you can drill a hole you can mount it
I got some little z shaped aluminium brackets from ocuk Clearance section
Really small but very strong (xspc I think they might have been)
And used those to mount stuff in places you weren't meant to
Pair of mole grips and some force bent them into a different shape too
If required
It's not custom watercooling
If you don't drill,dremel,cut etc lol
I am the least practical person ever. I probably have some condition I don't know the name of but I particularly struggle with shape and space, done enough tests to know this. It is very hard for me to visualise things and when I do build I usually end up undoing it as I install something in wrong order. I am out of my depth doing this but I think that is part of the attraction.
Still undecided on where I shall put the PC. Putting it low down gives me the benefit of I can make it ugly but then it seems a waste buying that case.
Still undecided on where I shall put the PC. Putting it low down gives me the benefit of I can make it ugly but then it seems a waste buying that case.
Soldato
Knowing and admitting you have weaknesses
Is in itself a strength
Luckily I am good at both theoretical and practical things
And at picturing stuff in my head
Tidiness is a totally different matter lol
My builds will never look like an immaculate show piece like some people
Can manage
But they will work
When it comes to custom watercooling
Most of us won't have got it perfect
Undoing and redoing stuff is something we are used to
So don't worry over that
Yes nowadays if you use a distro block it makes life easier
As its basically telling you that your Tubing has to
Go in and out certain places
As to where to put the PC
That's actually pretty important
Not just for aesthetics
Also because fully loaded water-cooled pcs are not light things
Spent many years kneeling under desks trying to plug something
Into the rear of computers
As my health declined I decided to put a nice set of castors on the PC
Made life easier to move it
And the extra 3 inches clearance allows putting it on thick rug or carpets
And to have my drain ports actually under the PC
Comes off the underside of my bottom radiator so absolutely the lowest point
In the loop
As my health got worse its now on a chest a couple of feet high
So I can spin it around on the castors to work on it if needed
The glass window is pretty much a part of a lot of cases now
So sometimes to get the functionality you want
You're stuck with a case with a window
Whether you wanted one or not
You could always do some kind of artwork on the window
To hide the interior if don't want to look at it
Is in itself a strength
Luckily I am good at both theoretical and practical things
And at picturing stuff in my head
Tidiness is a totally different matter lol
My builds will never look like an immaculate show piece like some people
Can manage
But they will work
When it comes to custom watercooling
Most of us won't have got it perfect
Undoing and redoing stuff is something we are used to
So don't worry over that
Yes nowadays if you use a distro block it makes life easier
As its basically telling you that your Tubing has to
Go in and out certain places
As to where to put the PC
That's actually pretty important
Not just for aesthetics
Also because fully loaded water-cooled pcs are not light things
Spent many years kneeling under desks trying to plug something
Into the rear of computers
As my health declined I decided to put a nice set of castors on the PC
Made life easier to move it
And the extra 3 inches clearance allows putting it on thick rug or carpets
And to have my drain ports actually under the PC
Comes off the underside of my bottom radiator so absolutely the lowest point
In the loop
As my health got worse its now on a chest a couple of feet high
So I can spin it around on the castors to work on it if needed
The glass window is pretty much a part of a lot of cases now
So sometimes to get the functionality you want
You're stuck with a case with a window
Whether you wanted one or not
You could always do some kind of artwork on the window
To hide the interior if don't want to look at it
@Mcnumpty2323 Was that an offer to build it for me?
For some reason went back to looking at fans and now I am thinking of changing to the Phantek T30. It was this video and a few other reviews that swung it. If I get them it means I will have to have thinner radiators due to them being 30mm
For some reason went back to looking at fans and now I am thinking of changing to the Phantek T30. It was this video and a few other reviews that swung it. If I get them it means I will have to have thinner radiators due to them being 30mm
Soldato
@Noxia even if you weren't so far away
My health nowadays isn't really up to the challenge
If it was I wouldn't hesitate to help someone build their pc
Plus will shortly be in Australia For an extended period
Really not looking forward to that journey
There are definitely people in here who could do it for you though
Usually for a few beers
I helped someone find a nice guy to do his hard Tubing before
It's just a case of finding a member who is local to you
And who you decide does know what they are doing
As you are trusting them with your expensive components
As for the phanteks
I have used their stuff from day one
Before most people ever heard of them so yeah
I definitely like their stuff
Would better fan compensate for thinner radiator
That's quite possible
As long as you still have plenty radiator surface area
2 x 360mm for example
I have 2 x 360mm slim rads about 35mm I think
Plus 1 x 240mm x 45mm thick
My fans are set 700rpm to 1000rpm
And they're not as good as those t30 or the noctuas
Mix of lian li al120 and ek vardars
I also use 2 pumps one for redundancy
Pumps don't fail too often but it's still something to bear in mind
My health nowadays isn't really up to the challenge
If it was I wouldn't hesitate to help someone build their pc
Plus will shortly be in Australia For an extended period
Really not looking forward to that journey
There are definitely people in here who could do it for you though
Usually for a few beers
I helped someone find a nice guy to do his hard Tubing before
It's just a case of finding a member who is local to you
And who you decide does know what they are doing
As you are trusting them with your expensive components
As for the phanteks
I have used their stuff from day one
Before most people ever heard of them so yeah
I definitely like their stuff
Would better fan compensate for thinner radiator
That's quite possible
As long as you still have plenty radiator surface area
2 x 360mm for example
I have 2 x 360mm slim rads about 35mm I think
Plus 1 x 240mm x 45mm thick
My fans are set 700rpm to 1000rpm
And they're not as good as those t30 or the noctuas
Mix of lian li al120 and ek vardars
I also use 2 pumps one for redundancy
Pumps don't fail too often but it's still something to bear in mind
Soldato
Look to me like the pump/res in the top picture is mounted to the fans below it.I feel like it's one of these things where there is little difference and probably boils down to brand loyalty or whatever you think looks best. I'm still not decided on tubing either, if the PC isn't going to be in view then I may just go for that bendy black stuff.
Can't figure out how this pump and or reservoir is mounted on this photo. Would probably help if I actually got my case out to look.
Also this is putting me off having two chunky radiators, he said it was VERY tight to build with them so Might just compromise on size.
Yeah I thought thick rads at the top and bottom looked pretty bad also. I went with HWLabs GTS rads at the top and bottom which are are 30mm think and an XSPC RX360 58mm thick rad in the side position. I have pump in the back above the PSU and GPU mounted normally. Using clear soft tubing, kinda tempted to go hard acrylic tubing but also not sure if I can be arsed with the faff and the cost of new fittings.
@Mcnumpty2323 I was only half joking, I would ALWAYS rather try something myself initially, I am terrible at most practical things but I can build normal PC's fine and make them tidy. I hope your trip goes well and your health improves.
As I keep saying, being a massive autist/adhd'er I love researching all the parts etc but the downside is it can take a loooong time to decide anything. I bounce from one idea to the next very quickly. Current one is getting white radiators (HEatkiller) which will mean I will have to research how to get an effective drain valve as it wont be as easy as having a spare bit of soft tube on one of the X-Flow spare outlets on the bottom. I need to consider maintenance as I know I will obsess about it. I see one way is to use a splitter, this is ok but could look a bit naff but then it's not going to be a display piece lets face it.
Heatkiller review Pulls away at higher RPM but little in it regardless, this is what I meant about choosing aesthetics as priority as performance is minimal except in the case of fans it seems. That radiator uses M3 screws which is what the Phanteks also uses and supplies 35mm screws. I don't understand why the screws supplied with the fans wouldn't work with any radiator. Why would I have to buy screws if the fans come with them??
This is what confused me.
@SpudMaster That is a lot of radiators and fans. Does it provide much more cooling benefit or was it an aesthetic choice? Was there an option to put the side rad at the front instead or not enough room due to the top and bottom ones being long
As I keep saying, being a massive autist/adhd'er I love researching all the parts etc but the downside is it can take a loooong time to decide anything. I bounce from one idea to the next very quickly. Current one is getting white radiators (HEatkiller) which will mean I will have to research how to get an effective drain valve as it wont be as easy as having a spare bit of soft tube on one of the X-Flow spare outlets on the bottom. I need to consider maintenance as I know I will obsess about it. I see one way is to use a splitter, this is ok but could look a bit naff but then it's not going to be a display piece lets face it.
Heatkiller review Pulls away at higher RPM but little in it regardless, this is what I meant about choosing aesthetics as priority as performance is minimal except in the case of fans it seems. That radiator uses M3 screws which is what the Phanteks also uses and supplies 35mm screws. I don't understand why the screws supplied with the fans wouldn't work with any radiator. Why would I have to buy screws if the fans come with them??
This is what confused me.
@SpudMaster That is a lot of radiators and fans. Does it provide much more cooling benefit or was it an aesthetic choice? Was there an option to put the side rad at the front instead or not enough room due to the top and bottom ones being long
Soldato
@Noxia it's good you're willing to give it a go
The option to find someone in here is always there if needed
Even if its just to guide you
Rather than actually build it for you
Getting your head around all the fittings and stuff
Is probably harder than actually putting it all together
Very important tip would be always get rotary fittings so things
Will line up once the fittings are tightened
As its sods law a non rotary fitting won't
Point the direction you want once tightened
And yeah I know the take forever to make your mind up bit
Have put an s8 ultra in my basket about 12 times
In the last fortnight without managing to press buy lol
Spray paint the ek rads white is always an option
And yes a splitter/t piece/y piece can be used
For drain points
It doesn't look too terrible usually
As you just disconnect the length of soft Tubing from the ball valve
And screw it on once you want to drain the loop
The 2 different types of thread for radiator screws is a PITA
Though its annoying if you have to buy some
At least they're cheap and easily available
The option to find someone in here is always there if needed
Even if its just to guide you
Rather than actually build it for you
Getting your head around all the fittings and stuff
Is probably harder than actually putting it all together
Very important tip would be always get rotary fittings so things
Will line up once the fittings are tightened
As its sods law a non rotary fitting won't
Point the direction you want once tightened
And yeah I know the take forever to make your mind up bit
Have put an s8 ultra in my basket about 12 times
In the last fortnight without managing to press buy lol
Spray paint the ek rads white is always an option
And yes a splitter/t piece/y piece can be used
For drain points
It doesn't look too terrible usually
As you just disconnect the length of soft Tubing from the ball valve
And screw it on once you want to drain the loop
The 2 different types of thread for radiator screws is a PITA
Though its annoying if you have to buy some
At least they're cheap and easily available
Soldato
Well I was originally planning on just using two 360 rads, one in the top and one in the side but I able to get both the HWLabs rads for just over £60 and I only alread had the RX360 rad. I doubt the third rad provides any major cooling increased in cooling performance as only only cooling cpu and gpu in my cool. Two 360s would be more than enough. Does mean I can run my fans slow and still get good performance though. Playing Doom Eternal the other day my 5600x was high 40/low 50s and my Vega56 was low 40s. PBO on and GPU overclocked.
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Forgot to say that's with fans set to a constant 800rpm