O2 LLU - What are my chances?

[TW]Fox

[TW]Fox

[TW]Fox

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Finally leaving Plusnet.

I've signed up with O2 on the LLU Package. At first they said no, your line won't support it but agreed to put a manual order through when I explained I was currently on ADSL2 through Plusnet.

They have, however, said it might still fail at the provisioning stage. I'm just wondering what they mean by this and what the chances are of it not working.

ie when can I have my goodbye BTIPstream party?

Current line stats (Unbeleivably it jumped to this seconds after I got off the phone from requesting my MAC code, usually its 1.5mbit and only because I've tweaked the SNR with my DGTeam firmware)

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 1920 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 63.5 db 31.5 db
Noise Margin 9.9 db 6.0 db
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Thanks guys!
 
I assumed that message is given when they simply don't have LLU presence at your Exchange?

What Exchange are you at?
 
I'd say to check here to make sure they have LLU on your exchange, but I have a feeling that's not the problem.

They're probably reluctant because you're so far from the exchange. What did their line checker say?
 
THey do have LLU at my exchange. The line checker says they cannot offer service - this is due to the distance of my line. But they've agreed to put the order through anyway - and have taken payment details, etc etc.

They just mentioned there might be issues at the 'provisioning' stage, I was wondering what this meant.

I currently have ADSL2 with Plusnet, so I know it 'works' on my line.
 
Provisioning stage... not sure what that is. On activation date they'll take a wire pair from the O2 LLU equip and tie it to your line, so there's no way for you or them to know if the modem will actually work until you plug it in and see.

As you say, if you're currently on an ADSL2 service then there's no reason why O2 shouldn't work. I wish you luck! O2 have pretty strict video streaming policies these days, don't know if you knew about this before you signed up?
 
It will go through Fox, Don't worry, NO profile crap blah blah, steady 6db snr and if your line gets a rought spot, it doesn't affect the profile and so on.
 
benftl said:
Provisioning stage... not sure what that is. On activation date they'll take a wire pair from the O2 LLU equip and tie it to your line, so there's no way for you or them to know if the modem will actually work until you plug it in and see.
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That sounds like exactly what I'm after! So nobody between now and then is going to manually look and say no no no no?

As you say, if you're currently on an ADSL2 service then there's no reason why O2 shouldn't work. I wish you luck! O2 have pretty strict video streaming policies these days, don't know if you knew about this before you signed up?
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Nope - but then again the only streaming I do is a formula 1 race once a fortnight and the odd bit of iPlayer. I thought the LLU was un-traffic-shaped?


Locky said:
It will go through Fox, Don't worry, NO profile crap blah blah, steady 6db snr and if your line gets a rought spot, it doesn't affect the profile and so on.
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Thats what appealled to me. PN refused to ever reset my SNR, and if my connection bumped down to 1mbit for 30 second I was stuck on a 1mbit profile for days!
 
Just found that they do now traffic shape - luckily on the package I've gone for, the limti is 250kb/s at peak times.

Only in my dreams could I ever acheive 250kb/s anyway. I've never downloaded a file at more than 130kb/s, so I'm not bothered.

There is also now a 250Gb download limit - again - not bothered, could never download that much.
 
Bear in mind that's kilobits per second, so converted to something we all better understand that's 32KB/sec ~ . In reality, all it means is certain videos will take longer to buffer, unless you're in the habit of streaming HD content whenever available - I couldn't see that being much fun!
 
Been on O2 LLU now for a year and it's been spot on, speed is always to the max and I've never experienced any drops at all. Sadly because I am that far from my exchange (1.52km straight line distance) I can only average 5meg on most days. If I reboot my router first thing in the morning it will sync at 6.5meg at 6db SNR and I can download at those speeds all day until it comes to around 4pm where the SNR will go right down to 1.0 and then it will loose the sync and connect back to 5meg 6db SNR again. A guy at technicial support said that he could move us down to the "access package" where it is only up to 8Meg on the standard ADSL1 but we would be able to get 6Meg 24/7 without any issues according to him, but we declined as they have the that speed capping in the evenings on the access package. I think this is all down to the poor wiring between my house and the exchange. Anyway I'm not complaining as it's only £5 a month :)

Also when you start using O2 BB, I recommend investing in another router as the O2 wireless routers are not all that great, we used our O2 Wireless Box II for the first few days and it was terrible so in the end I swapped it for my old Netgear. Not sure if the O2 Wireless Box III's are any good though?

Liam
 
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I work in Provisioning for a rival company ;)

Not too sure why it would fail at that stage though, unless theyre systems only allow for a certain line length to be provisioned against.

We will pretty much do anything as long as we can get a signal....at least 512kb speeds.
 
[TW]Fox;17464422 said:
Just found that they do now traffic shape - luckily on the package I've gone for, the limti is 250kb/s at peak times.

Only in my dreams could I ever acheive 250kb/s anyway. I've never downloaded a file at more than 130kb/s, so I'm not bothered.

There is also now a 250Gb download limit - again - not bothered, could never download that much.
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Hmm, do you mean your connection will be limited at 250Kbps or 250KB/s = 2Mbps?
 
The connection for P2P will be 250kbps.

Now I have the pointless wait for a MAC code. Why it takes 5 working days is anyones guess.
 
[TW]Fox;17468687 said:
The connection for P2P will be 250kbps.

Now I have the pointless wait for a MAC code. Why it takes 5 working days is anyones guess.
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When we left Sky we got it 2 days after calling them to request it, the 5 days is just the legal limit these days. I remember reading not long ago that Orange used to take forever to send out MAC's to leaving customers.

Liam
 
[TW]Fox;17468687 said:
The connection for P2P will be 250kbps.

Now I have the pointless wait for a MAC code. Why it takes 5 working days is anyones guess.
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Just moved from Tiscali, they quoted me 5 days for my MAC. It actually arrived via text 6 hours later :)
 
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