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Orange has disappointed me so far, so if and when I make the switch to o2 at the end of my contract I'll seriously consider this.
 
Raymond Lin said:
£159...........dreamland or what lol

The £169 price was at the end of its cycle when Apple trying to shift stock, even then they expected people to sign up. Even at £269 they expected people to sign up to contracts, so how much do you think they are going to charge when they are not expecting people to sign up to their contract?
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PAYG still tends to be partly subsidised and hardware wise there isn't anything super expensive in there, £269 probably comfortably covered the iPhone V1 and I would expect to cover V2.
 
Really thought T-Mobile would buy into it too, not just O2.. how Apple expect EVERYONE to buy into a new contract for the affordable iPhone i dont know!
 
Slogan said:
The tariffs are still extremely poor, unfortunately.

I don't see why someone would be openly willing to pay £35 p/m for those resources when I pay £15 p/m for unlimited texts and 02 calls. It's nothing short of madness.

I still think the Pay As You Go iPhone is going to be one of those surprise price points in a bad way. I reckon something ridiculous around £400 and they'll make you pay for upgrades in the same way iPod Touch users have had to. (Which has just been a parade of greedy money-grabbing from Apple)
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The cost of the tariff subsidises the handset to some degree. This is always how mobile contracts have worked in this country.
If you get a sim only deal or a crappy handset, operators will be more than happy to throw more minutes at you.

Also bear in mind the unlimited data tariff (t-mob costs £7.50 for this) plus unlimited hotspot access.
 
bam0 said:
PAYG still tends to be partly subsidised and hardware wise there isn't anything super expensive in there, £269 probably comfortably covered the iPhone V1 and I would expect to cover V2.
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But you have forgotten that the £269 for v1 was not subsidised for a PAYG phone, it was sold as a contract phone.
 
Raymond Lin said:
But you have forgotten that the £269 for v1 was not subsidised for a PAYG phone, it was sold as a contract phone.
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I thought it was widely believed that there was no carrier subsidy on the V1 iPhone, they wanted you to take a contract out with it, but only lost potential revenue, not made a loss if you didn't.
 
tripitaka said:
Why? It's about equivalent to what I pay for my current windows mobile smartphone on t-mobile.

This is priced very competitively for what you get. The original, however, was massively overpriced.
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The £35 is ok priced but the £30 is an absolute joke.

Considering I get 1000 texts, 400 minutes and unlimited web use for £25 from O2, I think these tariffs are a bit over the top!

bam0 said:
I thought it was widely believed that there was no carrier subsidy on the V1 iPhone, they wanted you to take a contract out with it, but only lost potential revenue, not made a loss if you didn't.
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02 did make a small amount from the initial sale, their money however was due to come from the tariffs. I guess they still made money because I took out an 02 Simplicity when I unlocked mine and before Ziphone, unlocking was limited to 02 so either way they still got your bussiness.
 
bam0 said:
I thought it was widely believed that there was no carrier subsidy on the V1 iPhone, they wanted you to take a contract out with it, but only lost potential revenue, not made a loss if you didn't.
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So by that argument, Apple seriously lost out big time the past 2 months with the £169 pricing then. I can't really see that happening really, the original contract was awful enough to begin with, Apple got a cut from that, no doubt about it.
 
iSam said:
The £35 is ok priced but the £30 is an absolute joke.

Considering I get 1000 texts, 400 minutes and unlimited web use for £25 from O2, I think these tariffs are a bit over the top!



02 did make a small amount from the initial sale, their money however was due to come from the tariffs. I guess they still made money because I took out an 02 Simplicity when I unlocked mine and before Ziphone unlocking was limited to 02 so either way they still got your bussiness.
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Unlimited being 250mb'ish, no?

But yeah prices are very OTT!

I get for £32.50; £180 Credit, 3-5GB Internet Usage and free CoPilot on release!
 
Raymond Lin said:
So by that argument, Apple seriously lost out big time the past 2 months with the £169 pricing then. I can't really see that happening really, the original contract was awful enough to begin with, Apple got a cut from that, no doubt about it.
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Depends, production costs come down the longer you manufacture, and knowing you have a new model coming out shortly you don't want any dead stock left in retail do you? A lot of the value of the iPhone is in the system they have rather than wowing with technical features, it's not overly small either, I don't see why it would be a particularly expensive device to manufacture.
 
bam0 said:
Depends, production costs come down the longer you manufacture, and knowing you have a new model coming out shortly you don't want any dead stock left in retail do you? A lot of the value of the iPhone is in the system they have rather than wowing with technical features, it's not overly small either, I don't see why it would be a particularly expensive device to manufacture.
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Not with China churning them out for peanuts.
 
iSam said:
Yes it is limited but has never really affected me.

Who are you with?
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T-Mobile. Was gonna go for O2, but this contract allows me to use it as a modem at 3-5mb/s which is more than enough! My internet was down for 2 days and used the Touch Dual as a modem, worked perfectly.
 
Forget the last iphone aside, just look at the current one.

On Contract

£99 + £30 a month MINIMUM to get a new iphone v2.

Thats £129 straight away on the first day, there is no way in hell, and Steve Job will sleep with Bill Gates before Apple sell the 8G iphone at merely £159 (£30 more than a contract phone).
 
Raymond Lin said:
Forget the last iphone aside, just look at the current one.

On Contract

£99 + £30 a month MINIMUM to get a new iphone v2.

Thats £129 straight away on the first day, there is no way in hell, and Steve Job will sleep with Bill Gates before Apple sell the 8G iphone at merely £159 (£30 more than a contract phone).
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We can all hope :p.

I hope the instore activation isnt gonna happen :(.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Forget the last iphone aside, just look at the current one.

On Contract

£99 + £30 a month MINIMUM to get a new iphone v2.

Thats £129 straight away on the first day, there is no way in hell, and Steve Job will sleep with Bill Gates before Apple sell the 8G iphone at merely £159 (£30 more than a contract phone).
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£159 PAYG? I don't think they'll do that for a second, I wasn't arguing that they would.
 
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