OCUK 8800GTX - how overclockable is it

[leon4112]

I wouldn't totally agree with you there. I have a GTX since the day of release and I generally game at 1280 on my 19' TFT, having never got around to actually buying the new monitor I swore I would!

Occasionally I break out the old CRT and go at 1600*1200. (thats slightly more than 1650*1050) Despite what the benchies say, there's a noticable framerate difference in real world playing. At 1280 everthings a touch more, well, slick.

I've tried 1920 on the CRT - for me, it's still a borderline no-no on a lot of games, even with a GTX. Some people would be happy, it's a matter of personal opinion (which I realise doesn't really count for much around here ) and how much AA/AF you like to use.

When it comes down to $/framerate, I'd totally agree with you, a GT would be a better buy, but for pure ease of gaming the GTX is still a cracker on any display, and a very viable enthusiast purchase if you can afford it.

We'll see about the new GTS when it arrives, but at this point I'm looking ahead to the next-gen

I see no reason to downgrade to a GT to raise cash, all the 8800's will nose-dive in value once the next gen is on the shelf.

yeah i agree ive had mine now since last nov when i got my first gtx so had it way over a year and since the gt boys have only just got theres and its still not faster than 1 year old tech thats fine but when this happends :

NVIDIA also claims that the upcoming G92 is set to break the 1 Teraflops barrier. The 8800 is capable of about 330 Gflops, which means the green team is suggesting that the 9800 could be three times more powerful. Keeping in mind that ATI's R600 can deliver 450 GigaFlops, this would be an outstanding generation leap for NVIDIA, as it usually makes its updated generations two times faster than the previous ones.

the 8800 gt is gonna find its self near low end and nowhere near the top!!

9900 gtx will be on order and the ultra will be going in my mates pc (free upgrades he loves em!!)

 

[willhub]

yeah i agree ive had mine now since last nov when i got my first gtx so had it way over a year and since the gt boys have only just got theres and its still not faster than 1 year old tech thats fine but when this happends :

NVIDIA also claims that the upcoming G92 is set to break the 1 Teraflops barrier. The 8800 is capable of about 330 Gflops, which means the green team is suggesting that the 9800 could be three times more powerful. Keeping in mind that ATI's R600 can deliver 450 GigaFlops, this would be an outstanding generation leap for NVIDIA, as it usually makes its updated generations two times faster than the previous ones.

the 8800 gt is gonna find its self near low end and nowhere near the top!!

9900 gtx will be on order and the ultra will be going in my mates pc (free upgrades he loves em!!)

Except the G92 wont break the 1TF barrier.

The GTX will find itself near lowend and no were near the top too, well actually the GT and GTX will proberbly stay mid end untill the mid end 9800 series cards come out.

 

[ebilcake]

When it comes down to $/framerate, I'd totally agree with you, a GT would be a better buy, but for pure ease of gaming the GTX is still a cracker on any display, and a very viable enthusiast purchase if you can afford it.

We'll see about the new GTS when it arrives, but at this point I'm looking ahead to the next-gen

I see no reason to downgrade to a GT to raise cash, all the 8800's will nose-dive in value once the next gen is on the shelf.

Agreed but there are even benefits at 1600*1200/1650*1050, it's small but the gaps between high end cards based on the same core/architecture usually are, it's just whether or not the premium is worth it to you or not.

http://firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8800_gt_performance/default.asp

 

[leon4112]

Except the G92 wont break the 1TF barrier.

The GTX will find itself near lowend and no were near the top too, well actually the GT and GTX will proberbly stay mid end untill the mid end 9800 series cards come out.

well damm you must work for nvidia since you knew that answer before anyone else damm hey everyone this guys knows the 9900 gtx won't break the 1tf barrier even though they have been promoting this fact for 5-6 months now and there hasn't been no leaks of tests at all im amazed you know this thanks for bring this to our attention !!!

and your forgeting the gt is 4th in the current line up anyways so if they bring out the gtx then the ultra and gts versions of that card in nvidias line up the gt would be 7th so i would call that mid to low on its own!!

 

[willhub]

well damm you must work for nvidia since you knew that answer before anyone else damm hey everyone this guys knows the 9900 gtx won't break the 1tf barrier even though they have been promoting this fact for 5-6 months now and there hasn't been no leaks of tests at all im amazed you know this thanks for bring this to our attention !!!

G92 wont be breaking any 1TF barriers soon, not even 2.

I think you forgot the name of the G92.

and your forgeting the gt is 4th in the current line up anyways so if they bring out the gtx then the ultra and gts versions of that card in nvidias line up the gt would be 7th so i would call that mid to low on its own!!

If they only release the 9800GTX on release then it'll be mid end, as I said in my post they'll probs be mid end untill the mid end 9800's come out..

 

[fornowagain]

The 8800 is capable of about 330 Gflops, which means the green team is suggesting that the 9800 could be three times more powerful.

If you only count the MADD ops its 345GFlops. NVidia aren't terrible consisted, but they describe the GTX including the MUL op. Giving 518 GFlops, so twice as powerful. The 9800 would only need 50% more shaders at 1800MHz to reach 1TFlop.

 

[leon4112]

I have a G92 and it certainly goes not break the 1TF barrier.

G92 wont be breaking any 1TF barriers soon, not even 2.



If they only release the 9800GTX on release then it'll be mid end, as I said in my post they'll probs be mid end untill the mid end 9800's come out..

you have a low end g92 more of a test of the water card its hardly the high end card there talking about

and the fact all major gfx sites are reporting feb as such

Digitimes is reporting that NVIDIA will launch a new generation with a flagship part in February of next year. The infamous "sources at graphics card makers" are cited for the tip.

a February '08 launch of a high-end card would be 16 months since NVIDIA's last new-gen flagship launch, G80, in November of 2006. The timing seems reasonable,

 

[willhub]

you have a low end g92 more of a test of the water card its hardly the high end card there talking about

and the fact all major gfx sites are reporting feb as such

Digitimes is reporting that NVIDIA will launch a new generation with a flagship part in February of next year. The infamous "sources at graphics card makers" are cited for the tip.

a February '08 launch of a high-end card would be 16 months since NVIDIA's last new-gen flagship launch, G80, in November of 2006. The timing seems reasonable,

I have a low end G92 card? No, I have a high end G92 card, and I dont class the gap between GTS and GT high to mid end.

Look at the date of the news, its old, the G92 is the 8800GT and 8800GTS, the 9800's will have a totally different name so no need to be smart about it I was right the G92 wont have 1TF.

 

[leon4112]

I have a low end G92 card? No, I have a high end G92 card, and I dont class the gap between GTS and GT high to mid end.

Look at the date of the news, its old, the G92 is the 8800GT and 8800GTS, the 9800's will have a totally different name so no need to be smart about it I was right the G92 wont have 1TF.

yeah sure this date is really old

NVIDIA to launch G9 flagship in February?
Friday 30th November 2007, 11:11:57 AM, written by Geo

and im sorry its no high end card its just the first of the batch they will bring out in the next 6 months gts and gt are mid to high any gtx and ultra are high end way its allways been and allways will be!!

and what you class and what nvidia class as high end are 2 different things

again as the line up stands with nvidia

# GeForce 8800 Ultra
# GeForce 8800 GTX
# GeForce 8800 GTS
# GeForce 8800 GT - NEW!

 

[willhub]

yeah sure this date is really old

NVIDIA to launch G9 flagship in February?
Friday 30th November 2007, 11:11:57 AM, written by Geo

Link because I'm sure I've seen it before and the G92 is the 8800GT, the 9800's is going to be named D8E, D8P etc.. I beileve.

It would be stupid to make the 9800's a G92 because its going to be a totally different chip and a hell of a lot more powerfull.

yeah sure this date is really old

NVIDIA to launch G9 flagship in February?
Friday 30th November 2007, 11:11:57 AM, written by Geo

and im sorry its no high end card its just the first of the batch they will bring out in the next 6 months gts and gt are mid to high any gtx and ultra are high end way its allways been and allways will be!!

and what you class and what nvidia class as high end are 2 different things

again as the line up stands with nvidia

# GeForce 8800 Ultra
# GeForce 8800 GTX
# GeForce 8800 GTS (640 MB & 320 MB)
# GeForce 8800 GT - NEW!

Show me the plans to bring out a GTX and Ultra refresh on the G92 core, were is this GTS 640/320mb on the G92 core? the 8800GT is faster than the old GTS 640/320's...

It should be like this:
# GeForce 8800 Ultra
# GeForce 8800 GTX
# GeForce 8800GTS 512MB - NEW!
# GeForce 8800 GT - NEW!
# GeForce 8800 GTS (640 MB & 320 MB)

So if someone wants is getting 4fps less than a GTX in crysis with an 8800GT the GT is a mid end card? just because of its price and name does not mean its mid end.

The GTS 640/320 will be phased out soon and production stopped on them unless that has happened allready.

NVIDIA to launch G9 flagship in February?
Friday 30th November 2007, 11:11:57 AM, written by Geo

Digitimes is reporting that NVIDIA will launch a new generation with a flagship part in February of next year. The infamous "sources at graphics card makers" are cited for the tip. The report claims the new DX 10.1 GPU will be at 65nm; which, if true, would not be an advance against either their own G92 (already 65nm) or AMD's RV670 (55nm).

If true, a February '08 launch of a high-end card would be 16 months since NVIDIA's last new-gen flagship launch, G80, in November of 2006. The timing seems reasonable, but as always we remind our readers of "Geo's rule: Any reported launch that is more than 60 days in the future is still a crapshoot."

You've mixed it up.

 

[fornowagain]

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3307&Itemid=1
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4045&Itemid=34

Nvidia agrees that D8M and D8E are simply evolutionary steps as it shrinked its chips from 90 to 65 nanometre but the real next generation will come next year probably in Q2 if not later.


This matches the Nvidia's financial conference call where one of the Vice presidents said that Nvidia will have at least two new high end product until the next analyst call. This one usually takes place once a year.


D8E is a dual PCB dual chip card while D9E is a new chip that we don't know much about. We know it will be much faster than G80 but that is about it. In 2008 the graphics boys can do 55 nanometre and it will be too soon for 45 at least we think so.

Nvidia told a few souls that its new high-end card is getting ready for Q1 2008 launch. Nvidia knows it is too late for the holiday season, but it didn't have much option, as its new high-end card was simply not ready for Q4 2007.

The whole new high-end is codenamed D8E. Enthusiasts will have two chipsets on two PCB's with two huge power connectors. Most of you remember the 7950 GX2, and this will be a similar card. We still have to confirm if the chipsets on this card are two G92s, but we heavily suspect that Nvidia can enable the eight cluster of this 65nanometer chip and make the current 8800 GT chip even faster. If Nvidia does that, the 8800 GT chip will become an 8800 GTS 512MB, just with a touch of a flash tool.

After all, the G92 has more transistors than the G80, which means it has at least the same brute power, faster Shaders and new video processors; and we are sure that it has eight clusters, which are just as many as the G80 has.

Two of these chips should run very fast and we believe that such a card should be able to beat R680, ATI’s high-end card scheduled for the same release timeframe.

Nvidia also plans a new single chipset high-end card for mid 2008 codenamed G100, or D9E.

Two G92 can easily make 1TFlop, D8E = 8850GX2? . Even my GT overclocked makes 688 GFlops.

 

[leon4112]

Link because I'm sure I've seen it before and the G92 is the 8800GT, the 9800's is going to be named D8E, D8P etc.. I beileve.

It would be stupid to make the 9800's a G92 because its going to be a totally different chip and a hell of a lot more powerfull.



Show me the plans to bring out a GTX and Ultra refresh on the G92 core, were is this GTS 640/320mb on the G92 core? the 8800GT is faster than the old GTS 640/320's...

http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/537


if you guys don't wanna link through this is the info from the source

Nvidia to launch GeForce 9 series in February




Monica Chen, Taipei; Emily Chuang, DIGITIMES [Friday 30 November 2007]

Nvidia is ready for its next-generation GPU launch. According to sources at graphics card makers, the company plans to launch its GeForce 9 series GPU after the Lunar New Year in February.

The first chip to rollout of in GeForce 9 family will be the D9E, a high-end product that adopts 65nm manufacturing. The new product will also support DirectX 10.1 and Shader Model 4.1, revealed the sources.

In addition to the D9E, Nvidia will roll out a mid-range GeForce 9 family product named D9P in June 2008. The new GPU will adopt 55nm processing, the sources pointed out.


the d9e is a modded 92 in a way well thats what the talk is pushing towards via some sources

 

[willhub]

http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/537


if you guys don't wanna link through this is the info from the source

Nvidia to launch GeForce 9 series in February




Monica Chen, Taipei; Emily Chuang, DIGITIMES [Friday 30 November 2007]

Nvidia is ready for its next-generation GPU launch. According to sources at graphics card makers, the company plans to launch its GeForce 9 series GPU after the Lunar New Year in February.

The first chip to rollout of in GeForce 9 family will be the D9E, a high-end product that adopts 65nm manufacturing. The new product will also support DirectX 10.1 and Shader Model 4.1, revealed the sources.

In addition to the D9E, Nvidia will roll out a mid-range GeForce 9 family product named D9P in June 2008. The new GPU will adopt 55nm processing, the sources pointed out.


the d9e is a modded 92 in a way well thats what the talk is pushing towards via some sources

Its not a G92 though, as you can see they'll be D3E's and P's and should be quite different.

Link to were you got the res its not on the Beyond3D link.

 

[willhub]

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3307&Itemid=1
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4045&Itemid=34



Two G92 can easily make 1TFlop, D8E = 8850GX2? . Even my GT overclocked makes 688 GFlops.

So whats a damnd 9800GTX going to be called, dont want an 8800GT in SLi.

How you know how much Gflops your GPU produces?

So the 9800GTX could infact be an 8800GT in SLi on one PCB? Might aswell buy a second GT, oh wait I cant sold my damnd SLi mobo :\.

 

[fornowagain]

So whats a damnd 9800GTX going to be called, dont want an 8800GT in SLi.

How you know how much Gflops your GPU produces?

So the 9800GTX could infact be an 8800GT in SLi on one PCB? Might aswell buy a second GT, oh wait I cant sold my damnd SLi mobo :\.

D8E = 8850GX2 ?
D9E = 9800GTX ?

If you want the floating point ops multiply shaders x clock x ops/clock

 

[willhub]

D8E = 8850GX2 ?
D9E = 9800GTX ?

If you want the floating point ops multiply shaders x clock x ops/clock

Ahh D93 thats the name these names are getting more crazy every release.