OcUK Official Geforce Titan review thread

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Single card

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/51985-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan/
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_titan_review,1.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_titan_overclock_guide,1.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6774/nvidias-geforce-gtx-titan-part-2-titans-performance-unveiled
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_titan_review,1.html
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...AN-Performance-Review-and-Frame-Rating-Update
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...geforce-gtx-titan-6gb-performance-review.html
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-titan-performance-review,review-32635.html
http://translate.googleusercontent....n.html&usg=ALkJrhhMqchT21A4H-mh8nZ5EWZRytVl9A
http://translate.google.com/transla...fikkarten/2013/test-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan/
http://techreport.com/review/24381/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-reviewed
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/02/21/nvidia_geforce_gtx_titan_video_card_review#.USZss1e5z8A
http://translate.google.com/transla...97980/Tests/Test-Geforce-GTX-Titan-1056659/4/



SLI

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan_SLI/
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_titan_3_way_sli_review,1.html

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

do we really need 2 threads on Titan?

Most people have got better things to do that scroll through dozens of pages.

Moreover,the other thread is a rumours thread. This is a review thread.

In the last few years,this is usually what happens - you have a rumours thread and a review thread.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

This is not good:

http://translate.googleusercontent....s.html&usg=ALkJrhhi5pY-c6w8e6ap63Aw6IryW5hrxw

Temperature can affect actual performance!!

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Not really, it's extra performance thrown in.

OK,have you even looked at the link before replying??

Most review benches are open air and in air conditioned offices.

Hence they are cooler than most actual systems.

Now think of your case,especially after a few months of dust build-up?

So,yes it is a concern.

Edit!!

Also,high end SFF PC systems are being sold with Geforce Titan in them.

What about during summer then??

On top of the limited overclocking ability,the card is at the limits of its TDP it seems.

So,if you get a Geforce Titan,it needs to be kept cool.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

OK,have you even looked at the link before replying??

Most review benches are open air and in air conditioned offices.

Hence they are cooler than most actual systems.

Now think of your case,especially after a few months of dust build-up?

So,yes it is a concern.

Edit!!

Also,high end SFF PC systems are being sold with Geforce Titan in them.

What about during summer then??

On top of the limited overclocking ability,the card is at the limits of its TDP it seems.

So,if you get a Geforce Titan,it needs to be kept cool.

It is no more of a concern than Intel Turbo Boost tech.... it is an extra boost that the GPU does automatically depending on Thermal/Power constraints.

If the card does become thermally constrained e.g. because you have benching for hours on end then yes it probably will fall back to base clocks, but you are looking at a 2-3% difference at most judging by reviews.


Stop going on about SFF systems.... as I said in the other thread, this will fit in most SFFs, there is nothing faster or equivalent period...
690 is faster but will not fit
Ares is faster but will not fit
Anything Crossfire/SLI will not fit
7970 will likely fit but is 20% slower.

Here are 2 examples with Anno 2070 and Battlefield 3 with a rapid test, test temperature stabilized and the same test but with the latter two 120mm fans positioned around the map:

Anno 2070: 75 fps -> 63 fps -> 68 fps
Battlefield 3: 115 fps -> 107 fps -> 114 fps

The drop in performance once the temperature reaches cruising can be considerable. Efficient cooling can partially compensate for this decline, but there not a contradiction in having to add noise to compensate for a graphics card is trying to remain discreet at all costs?

It also raises the issue of reliability of performance comparisons that you can read here and there, since this may be the big difference depending on the test conditions (ventilation card but wait or not temperature rise of the GPU for measurements) between extreme cases the gain is 19% in Anno 2070 and 7.5% in Battlefield 3!

The frequencies that we obtained in practice for two selected scenarios: limited to 889 MHz map without additional cooling / card capable of up to 1006 MHz with additional cooling. 3DMark is only able to maintain the highest frequencies through the loading time between scenes that allow the GPU never have time to reach 80 ° C.

3DMark Fire Strike: 889/1006 MHz
Unigne Heaven 4.0: 876/954 MHz
Unigne Valley 1.0: 876/954 MHz
1920 Alan Wake Max: 876/993 MHz
Alan Wake 2560 Very High: 837/928 MHz
2560 Alan Wake Max: 876/954 MHz
Anno 2070: 837/902 MHz
Assassin's Creed MSAA4x March 1920: 876/967 MHz
Assassin's Creed March 2560 FXAA HQ: 850/941 MHz
Assassin's Creed MSAA4x March 2560: 850/928 MHz
Batman Arkham City AA8x: 876/993 MHz
Batman Arkham City 2560 AA4x: 876/954 MHz
Battlefield March 1920 MSAA 4x: 876/993 MHz
Battlefield 3 2560: 850/928 MHz
Battlefield March 2560 MSAA 4x: 876/954 MHz
Civilization V AA8x 1920: 850/928 MHz
Civilization V AA4x 2560: 837/902 MHz
Civilization V AA8x 2560: 863/954 MHz
February 1920 Crysis Ultra: 876/993 MHz
February 2560 Crysis Extreme: 876/954 MHz
February 2560 Crysis Ultra: 863/967 MHz
DiRT Showdown 1920 Ultra: 876/954 MHz
DiRT Showdown 2560 Ultra AL OFF: 837/928 MHz
DiRT Showdown 2560 Ultra: 863/941 MHz
Far Cry AA4x March 1920: 876/954 MHz
Far Cry 3 2560: 850/928 MHz
Hitman Absolution: 876/993 MHz
Max Payne 3 4x AA: 876/954 MHz
Max Payne March 2560 NOAA: 850/941 MHz
Sleeping Dogs: 837/902 MHz
The Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition: 876/954 MHz
Total War Shogun MSAA4x February 1920: 837/928 MHz
Total War Shogun February 2560 MLAA: 837/928 MHz
Total War Shogun February 2560 MSAA 4x: 837/901 MHz

Don't order me around,OK. I updated the GK104 thread and even the GK110 thread.

I have been building SFF systems since 2005,so yes thermal constraints are important.

Instead of making excuses,and maybe you forget people tend to play games for hours too. Maybe in your world people only run games for 10 minutes.

Look at JC2 for example:

http://img.hexus.net/v2/graphics_cards/nvidia/Titan/f343d/JC.png

15% to 20% would push the card down to GTX680 level.

A well known French website did the test,and look,it boosts more than what Nvidia says. So those performance figures are dependent on good cooling. It also appears the card in throttling under Anno2070 on a test bench.

If performance drops a decent amount it comes into the same league as cheaper cards which won't throttle in a SFF PC. Hence the user can get the same performance from a cheaper card in a SFF PC like a GTX680.

Bigger cases like the Bitfenix Prodigy might be fine,but they are not really not that small TBH.

If you don't get into your head,thats your problem.

Complain to that website then,why they actually bothered to do some additional testing.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

You know it. I love benching and if they suck, I will let you all know.

I will do a mix of 1080P/5760*1080 and 3D at 5760*1080.

Thanks!

It seems,for rendering work cards,might be quite strong. They are expensive compared to the GTX580 3GB but cheap when compared to the K20X.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I added some more reviews.

It looks another pcgameshardware has also noticed some issues with the new boost:

http://translate.google.com/transla...97980/Tests/Test-Geforce-GTX-Titan-1056659/4/

It looks like the boost,works very well for the first minute and then sort of goes down a decent amount as the GPU gets too hot.

So,basically keep the GPU cool, it seems.

Geforce GTX titanium tested: 950-euro-battleship with the best values ​​in each discipline
Carsten Spille, Raphael Vötter
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Nvidia Geforce GTX Titan has finally arrived and tested by us: PC Games Hardware offers for this occasion not only dry specifications, but juicy game benchmarks including Crysis 3 and other top titles. Not just one, even three cards we could hunt in 3-Way SLI through our benchmark suite and present herewith the launch to test GTX titanium.
Geforce GTX Titan reviewed: Benchmark Boost

The following is an excerpt from our staple item for titanium in PCGH GTX 04/2013 (6 March in the trade):

For our benchmarks, the GPU Boost 2.0 means but an important limitation. We test usually on an open test bench, in which the graphics card is getting enough cool air in room temperature available - ideal conditions if you will. But within enclosures often significantly different conditions prevail, especially in the summer are also in well-ventilated enclosures significantly higher values ​​than our reach around 22 ° Celsius.

Since the GTX Titan the temperature play a key role, we have to test driven a great effort and recorded the achieved clock speeds at 28 ° C inlet air is warm for each benchmark game separately in any resolution and enforced for the benchmark runs constantly by Nvidia Inspector . For another point is added:
Current benchmark sequences are 30 to 60 seconds long gameplay snippets, which usually precedes a loading operation. Here a GPU Boost Technology 2.0 "gain momentum" as it were, for the benchmark and go through the cooler by the idle-charge phase GPU part of the test, with higher clock speeds. That is not up to what the player is experiencing in everyday life, because longer playing phases incurred where the temperature rises more and more according to the clock sinks. Therefore, would such a "standard test" will hardly do justice to our claim to deliver meaningful game benchmarks.

In summary, we have shooed the GTX Titan in about four settings through our course to cover every possible scenario meaningful:

• Standard method with artificially on the "guaranteed" by Nvidia boost rate of 876 MHz, limited-clock. Similarly, we handle it since the GTX 670th These values ​​also represent the basis of our tests ("@ 876 MHz")
• Free boost development on our open test bench with enough cooler air ("dyn. Boost")
• Individually applied to the minimum clock rate at 28 ° C inlet air is warm board set. This corresponds to the housing operation in summer temperatures ("28 ° C")

And last but not least, we take advantage of the OC capabilities of the card slightly, by increasing by EVGA Precision offset clock to 100 MHz, the Power Target to 105 percent and the target temperature to 85 ° C. Raise - all relatively safe levels .

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I may well beat him but for sure he has a peach of a card and price wise...Superb

@ Cat

From what I have read, the 2.0 boost works how you set it. If you set it to temps, it will keep clocking up till the temp set is reached. this is why water cooling on these is a must for overclockers.

Personally,I think more reviews need to look at this,as it wouldn't surprise me even if AMD does the same too with its future cards!!

What we need is reviews testing 5 to 10 minute gaming runs,so that AMD or Nvidia boost,does not twist the results.

Is possible when you test your cards,that you do longer runs,please??

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

No probs. My first testing with SLI 680's, I did 20 min runs and will do the same again. I am also interested in how each setting works and will have a good play with all of them.

You should be getting review samples not some of these websites!!

Your testing methods are more stringent!!