OCUK pre built PC to replace xbox

beachBOYken · Thursday at 18:16

Craig_d1 said:
9800x3d in there rather than a 7800x3d...paying that much might as well get the best. put a 4070ti super in there with the 4k gaming. the extra 4gb vram should help with 4k textures etc
the 9800x3d uses more power than the 7800x3d, and can draw 150w..if going that route I'd get the peerless assassin air cooler below..twin tower heat sink so excelllent cooling for air at price..the arctic 36freezer works very well too..going aio, I'd look at the thermalright aqua elete or frozen notte 360mm's for £50 or £69

That being said, after black fri week, prices have shot up...I would wait before pulling trigger on anything, esp gpu. 9800x3d is preorder so could order that..price seems to be going 1 way only at mo and don't think amd can keep up with demand, esp with intel launch failure
the asus 850W psu is good price though..10 yrs warranty and atx3.0 compliant..preorder again

My basket at OcUK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £509.99

1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 TI Super Trinity OC 16GB PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-02851) = £799.99

1 x Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03573) = £134.99

1 x Corsair Vengeance RGB EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-00997) = £89.99

1 x Asus TUF Gaming 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-060-AS) = £89.98

1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £104.99

1 x Antec C3 ARGB Midi Tower - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-02727) = £79.99

1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02724) = £29.99

Total: £1,851.90 (includes delivery: £11.98)

This looks good, do I need to mess around with thermal paste with any of these builds, heard it’s pre applied now.

hornetstinger · Thursday at 18:44

Once you learn how to build pc you'll know if heatsink needs some paste

Some come with pre applied paste some are bare.

beachBOYken · Friday at 10:12

Ok so I got this together based on feedback here, what do you think, will it work? any changes? is the motherboard ok I selected.

Not going ahead with anything yet just want to be sure it should all work and fit together in the case I have in basket. Thanks

My basket at OcUK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £509.99
1 x Gigabyte B650E AORUS ELITE X AX ICE (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03568) = £199.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB EXPO (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02786) = £89.99
1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £104.99
1 x Phanteks AMP GH 750W 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02517) = £84.94
1 x Kolink Umbra EX180 ARGB CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: HS-000-KK) = £20.00
1 x Asus GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Dual EVO 12GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ASU-02141) = £569.98
1 x Antec CX700 Elite RGB Mid Tower - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-02736) = £59.96

Total: £1,651.82 (includes delivery: £11.98)

hornetstinger · Friday at 10:16

Next gen cards are out soon, what you could do is use the CPU IGP for a short while and use that for a month playing indie games then see what's out.

Next gen cards are you soon, decide AMD Versus Nvidia.

beachBOYken · Friday at 10:21

hornetstinger said:
Next gen cards are out soon, what you could do is use the CPU IGP for a short while and use that for a month playing indie games then see what's out.

Next gen cards are you soon, decide AMD Versus Nvidia.

Im not worried about next gen cards but im waiting until new year anyway so prices may change on some parts. My main concern is if the build I made will work together, and unsure if the motherboard I added is worth the extra over the gigabyte b650 eagle that was linked by others.
The build is primarily for msfs 2024.

hornetstinger · Friday at 10:24

I was going to buy gigabyte but some issues with coil whine on some boards, so went with asrock 650E PG riptide. I've had gigabyte for a couple. E chipsets have extra PCI-E lanes I think.

Checkout which CPU is best for that flight sim, I recall it's better on Intel?- not sure as they have lots more cores.DO a YT search on that.

Craig_d1 · Friday at 10:31

beachBOYken said:
Im not worried about next gen cards but im waiting until new year anyway so prices may change on some parts. My main concern is if the build I made will work together, and unsure if the motherboard I added is worth the extra over the gigabyte b650 eagle that was linked by others.
The build is primarily for msfs 2024.

your b650 tuf wifi board is a decent mid range mobo.. I just went slightly cheaper to counter the 9800x3d which was £30 more than the 7800x3d. Threy'll both work, the tuf vrm's will run cooler. below is a rundown of the b650 boards..the 23min he does a cinebench 1hrs test to see how the vrms perform temp wise...just avoid the boards at the bottom..i discount any of the boards from 88 degrees onwards . eagle goes to 83 degrees, the tuf gaming wifi is 66 degrees...then just look at the connections you want, the features and looks...if going for a high end 5000 series card, they'll be pcie5 going forward..if you plan on keeping board for a long time, I'd go for one of those(I have a asus b650e-e board myself, as wanted pcie5 gpu/m.2 slot, and wanted a led debug display, and was the best value i could find at time)

beachBOYken · Friday at 10:41

I meant to put the ryzen 7800x3d in my build above, and I might go for 64gb ram as I heard msfs24 likes to eat that.

Craig_d1 · Friday at 10:45

beachBOYken said:
I meant to put the ryzen 7800x3d in my build above, and I might go for 64gb ram as I heard msfs24 likes to eat that.

why put a 7800x3d in for £480 when gthe 9800X3d is better for just £30 more? that makes no sense

beachBOYken · Friday at 10:49

Craig_d1 said:
why put a 7800x3d in for £480 when gthe 9800X3d is better for just £30 more? that makes no sense

Well being a complete noob I was a bit hesitant about having to potentially do a bios flash so that it works. Or perhaps it will work from the go?

hornetstinger · Friday at 10:53

beachBOYken said:
Well being a complete noob I was a bit hesitant about having to potentially do a bios flash so that it works. Or perhaps it will work from the go?

Do flash from usb stick live flash or whatever it's called

beachBOYken · Friday at 11:11

hornetstinger said:
Do flash from usb stick live flash or whatever it's called

Just looking this motherboard in my basket has a feature called quick flash plus where you don't need cpu, ram, gpu installed.

Craig_d1 · Friday at 11:26

beachBOYken said:
Just looking this motherboard in my basket has a feature called quick flash plus where you don't need cpu, ram, gpu installed.

most new boards do now..you download the bios from website onto a clean usb stick..name it accordingling and then plug into the correct usb at back and press the bios flashback button...it'll install the new bios and when light goes off, should be good to go and install the cpu

TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI | Motherboard | ASUS UAE

TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI is equipped with outstanding features, including 6-layer PCB design, DDR5, PCIe 5.0 M.2 support, Realtek 2.5Gb Ethernet, rear USB 3.2 Gen2x2 Type-C®, front USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C®, BIOS FlashBack™, DisplayPort/HDMI, USB4® (Thunderbolt™ 4) header, Addressable Gen 2...

www.asus.com

so in tuf case above site you go to, and rename file the below, then the mobo will recognise it and install

TGB650PW.CAP

I'm in UAE, so go to uk site, but basically the same anyway

beachBOYken · Friday at 11:32

Craig_d1 said:
most new boards do now..you download the bios from website onto a clean usb stick..name it accordingling and then plug into the correct usb at back and press the bios flashback button...it'll install the new bios and when light goes off, should be good to go and install the cpu

TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI | Motherboard | ASUS UAE

TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI is equipped with outstanding features, including 6-layer PCB design, DDR5, PCIe 5.0 M.2 support, Realtek 2.5Gb Ethernet, rear USB 3.2 Gen2x2 Type-C®, front USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C®, BIOS FlashBack™, DisplayPort/HDMI, USB4® (Thunderbolt™ 4) header, Addressable Gen 2...

www.asus.com

so in tuf case above site you go to, and rename file the below, then the mobo will recognise it and install

TGB650PW.CAP

I'm in UAE, so go to uk site, but basically the same anyway

Yeah just watched a good video on it, looks very easy to do, the mobo I will go for is likely the Gigabyte b650 eagle linked somewhere above.

Anyone got any thoughts on the Antec c700 and C3? both similar price, looks like either will be fine based on all the components in this thread, just not sure which to go for?

mickyflinn · Friday at 12:20

Just to throw you a curve ball you can get the 7900xt for £600 which competes with the 4070ti

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beachBOYken · Friday at 12:48

mickyflinn said:
Just to throw you a curve ball you can get the 7900xt for £600 which competes with the 4070ti

Powercolor Radeon RX 7900 XT HellHound 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card

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Oh nice, would that fit with all the parts I listed up this page, only things Ive since changed back to are the gigabyte b650 Eagle motherboard and the Asus TUF gaming 850w power supply, which I couldn't add to basket as they are preorder. Im thinking the prices may drop in the new year, so the 4070ti might be better to go for if its cheaper.

So below is my new basket what do you think?

My basket at OcUK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £518.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB EXPO (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02786) = £89.99
1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £104.98
1 x Kolink Umbra EX180 ARGB CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: HS-000-KK) = £20.00
1 x Antec CX700 Elite RGB Mid Tower - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-02736) = £59.95
1 x Powercolor Radeon RX 7900 XT HellHound 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-1AR-PC) = £599.99

Total: £1,405.88 (includes delivery: £11.98)

hornetstinger · Friday at 12:54

Not sure if that SSD has DRAM cache? If you feel like that

beachBOYken · Friday at 13:05

hornetstinger said:
Not sure if that SSD has DRAM cache? If you feel like that

What's the benefit? i'm a noob lol.

mickyflinn · Friday at 13:11

beachBOYken said:
Oh nice, would that fit with all the parts I listed up this page, only things Ive since changed back to are the gigabyte b650 Eagle motherboard and the Asus TUF gaming 850w power supply, which I couldn't add to basket as they are preorder. Im thinking the prices may drop in the new year, so the 4070ti might be better to go for if its cheaper.

So below is my new basket what do you think?

My basket at OcUK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £518.99

1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB EXPO (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02786) = £89.99

1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £104.98

1 x Kolink Umbra EX180 ARGB CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: HS-000-KK) = £20.00

1 x Antec CX700 Elite RGB Mid Tower - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-02736) = £59.95

1 x Powercolor Radeon RX 7900 XT HellHound 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-1AR-PC) = £599.99

Total: £1,405.88 (includes delivery: £11.98)

All looks good the upu fits the case with no issues as it has a clearance of 410mm.

Make dir your happy with your choices by reading reviews and checking clearances .

You don't need a dram m2 drive for gaming but they dram on board helps sustain higher speeds over longer data transfer.

£20 more for a dram m2

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hornetstinger · Friday at 13:11

dramless uses some system memory for caching so will slower for writing, ability to do background writing more efficiently. Also helps with the write wearing system

For write once, read only type system ie install a game, playing a game, dramless is fine.
For OS though dram is recommended

I have dramless and dram drives.

see if you can get this one for decent price

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I have this one

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