mid love to see the frametimes on a 10400f cause I know it won't be pretty in some games
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mid love to see the frametimes on a 10400f cause I know it won't be pretty in some games
Why are people bringing up the 10400F?
For £140 (If you can find one) its not a bad budget chip in the same way the 3600 was and still is a good chip if you're not running the fastest GPU's, nothing wrong with it but why is it now so important? is it what makes Intel still relevant?
For £140 (If you can find one) its not a bad budget chip in the same way the 3600 was and still is a good chip if you're not running the fastest GPU's, nothing wrong with it but why is it now so important? is it what makes Intel still relevant?
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Maybe because the price of the new generation has gone up,and AMD hasn't clarified when we are getting a Ryzen 5 5600 non-X or Ryzen 7 5700X?? Remember with the Zen2 launch the Ryzen 7 3700X and 3800X launched on the same day as did the Ryzen 5 3600 and Ryzen 5 3600X. Its like all the Core i5 10600K against the Ryzen 5 3600 comparisons. The former was faster,but was it really worth the price premium? I personally think it wasn't and I think the same of the Ryzen 5 5600X. I would rather save the £100 and put it towards a faster GPU.
Also as time progresses Zen2 should in theory age relatively well IMHO,with the consoles using it. Its major weakness is in legacy games/legacy game engines(relative to Intel) which Zen3 fixes for the most part.
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That is a fair point and i agree, AMD are definitely being "clever" here in maximizing their revenues, AMD don't exist as a charity, i'm not saying that in derogatory terms, to be dismissive to people who make the point that AMD have jacked up the pricing and held back the cheaper alternatives, they have, AMD know if you're looking for leading gaming performance you can get that for "as little as $300" and that's the point, they are more expensive than the 3000 series but they are also much faster in games, faster even than Intel's more expensive CPU's, AMD saw an opportunity to cash in and they did.
While that feels like a bit of a poke in the eye, can you blame them? they are not a charity
That is a fair point and i agree, AMD are definitely being "clever" here in maximizing their revenues, AMD don't exist as a charity, i'm not saying that in derogatory terms, to be dismissive to people who make the point that AMD have jacked up the pricing and held back the cheaper alternatives, they have, AMD know if you're looking for leading gaming performance you can get that for "as little as $300" and that's the point, they are more expensive than the 3000 series but they are also much faster in games, faster even than Intel's more expensive CPU's, AMD saw an opportunity to cash in and they did.
While that feels like a bit of a poke in the eye, can you blame them? they are not a charity
Forgot to add.
The 5600X will sell at least as many if not more than the 3600 did, because they appeal to a broader audience than the 3600 did, despite its $300 price, AMD will make a killing on them and i think that's a good thing, i want AMD to competitive to the point where Intel nor Nvidia find it easy (in fact VERY difficult) to push them around, for that they need serious money.
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I suppose it goes both ways as a number of consumers feel the same way(don't feel like a charity too). Only problem is if keeps happening at every launch and intel joins in. We saw what happened with GPUs after a few years. It was maintenance of the status quo. Much easier to push stacks upwards than downwards.$350 to $400 Zen4 6C CPU anyone?That is a fair point and i agree, AMD are definitely being "clever" here in maximizing their revenues, AMD don't exist as a charity, i'm not saying that in derogatory terms, to be dismissive to people who make the point that AMD have jacked up the pricing and held back the cheaper alternatives, they have, AMD know if you're looking for leading gaming performance you can get that for "as little as $300" and that's the point, they are more expensive than the 3000 series but they are also much faster in games, faster even than Intel's more expensive CPU's, AMD saw an opportunity to cash in and they did.
While that feels like a bit of a poke in the eye, can you blame them? they are not a charity
I also don't think the Ryzen 5 5600x will outsell the Ryzen 5 3600 longterm at $300,as I don't remember the Core i5 10600k doing that in recent months either even though it was faster. The Ryzen 7 3700X was easily outsold too.
Many countries are much more price sensitive,even with Intel CPUs. I expect once you take into consideration a range of retailers,CPUs such as the Core i5 8400 outsold the K series CPUs. Its just that enthusiast forums are more vocal.
After all £100 isn't a small difference. Its easily the difference between a GTX1650 Super and an RX5600XT or maybe a RTX2060.
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Latencymon measures the internal system latency as a whole. So when ram is clocked and tweaked and the system is tweaked it makes it a snappier platform. It is measured in US which is ultraseconds a thousand ultrasecondsa means 1ms.
I base things i buy on it, I had a usb mic once that when i talked spiked me from 20us to 1100us. So i ditched it. For me its a game the lower the better my system feels and runs. For gaming its good to measure but also falls under music. Im very interested to see what Ryzen 5000 can do with Latencymon.
Just download it, Open and click the play button the top bar will move in realtime so if you window it and a game and play the game you will see the numbers in realtime. My best was 2-7us idle and 55us when 4k gaming. But since the windows update it kind of got ruined so now i got x3 more than previously which i would like to fix with an upgrade.
you can feel the difference beteeen 8us and 50us? I'm not getting my 5950x for about 2 weeks I'm afraid
Maybe not 8us v 50us but i think my system in comp games feels worse now since the update. I noticed WoW panning almost had a jitter or micro hang its very hard to pinpoont. But thats 55us vs 130us windows made my system have x3 the latency nearly since 1903.
I am a min maxer so thats why i care and use the tool. And i would be really annoyed by 100us on such a new platform when my 4770k with my ram at 1T 2400mhz can do 55us max on Windows pre 1903 installs. And my ram was something like 72ns also so it was an amazing little system.
I am gonna hold back until more folks test these things, Im in no rush another year to me is nothing i typically play games from two years ago as i can max them out at 4k so i am still hanging in there!
Neither are weWhile that feels like a bit of a poke in the eye, can you blame them? they are not a charity
I personally won't be donating any more to the AMD R&D fund/Lisa Su party bus fund than absolutely necessary They can maximise their profits and I'll maximise my purchasing power
It just so happens that atm we're not in alignment so I'll be waiting patiently for a better offer (from either company although realistically that just means AMD price cuts).
I am having trouble with low CB R15&R20 single core scores on the Ryzen 5950X. If anyone has any suggestions will be greatly appreciated
bios issue most likely. Cinebench isn't affected by ram or gpu etc
Cant find any one with same setup as me, too early I guess, and that supply shortage as well. I preordered mine 2 weeks in advance to have it on launch day, a little extra over MSRP. Multi is nothing less then amazing (pricewise not that much). My old 3950X felt sluggish, cant explain it, but the new one runs smoother.
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It's a microsecond The symbol for microsecond is "μs". The "u" has a little tail.
A thousand microseconds makes a millisecond. A thousand nanoseconds makes a microsecond.
Ultraseconds sounds cooler I admit, but us engineers cannot let these things pass
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Anyone had success in manual overclocking and care to share the speed and volts used and the scores against stock?
[/QUOTE]Ryzen 9 5950X all stock and auto PBO is on. Bios patch B
I haven't used pbo before, is that an option in the bios to enable or ryzen master?
Between this and Gamer's Nexus, it seems that the best memory kit for a Zen 3 is 2x 16GB @ 3200-14-14-14-34.
There seems to be no reason to get anything else?