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It's like they don't understand how networks work.

They are designed from the ground up to work around blockages.

It's like saying they will ban roads because they are too many car crashes.
 
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mattyfez said:
It's like they don't understand how networks work.

They are designed from the ground up to work around blockages.

It's like saying they will ban roads because they are too many car crashes.
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Many, many years ago I actually befriended a couple of Chinese gold farmers when I played WoW. The "Great Firewall" was in full effect, they farmed gold/items in WoW because it was the best way for them to make a living vs the lives they had on a couple of proverbial ****boxes.

Sounds nuts I know but it always stuck in my head, they were brothers and barely spoke English. Were totally up front to some people but obviously not others, traded off their stash to whatever nightmare thing they had going on once a month and if they got banned they just changed IP and made new accounts. It happened 3-4 times in a row, this is back in vanilla mind you and they always contacted me after because I tried engaging with them when I saw them farming. This was back in vanilla mind you and was before bots could do the same sort of thing well.

Little bit of a weird example I know, but if they could get past China's restrictions anyone can, modernisation doesn't mean competence when it comes to network security. You'll always have people that can find a way, it's a mindless and stupid expense tossed onto the already stressed taxpayers, and one not a single damned person asked for that wasn't a deluded borderline OAP.
 
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Gray2233 said:
Unfortunately Moot went to work for Google but became a bit of a useless zombie they shipped between departments until he left.

I don't think anyone is supporting them, as much as laughing at what they know is likely to happen, I don't care how far left you might be but the current Government is somehow worse than the last so far Covid aside and I don't know many that think otherwise.

Frankly I hate the current political climate on both sides, so much so I'm (jokingly, because some will take it literal) starting to think the Libertarians might be right.



While I agree on a surface level, I do not want to live in a world of censorship by generations of incompetent governance, it doesn't look like it's trying to improve things for people rather than cover up their own utter idiocy.

We mocked the "Great Firewall of China" for years, I don't want to see the same in the UK.
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Yes yes you may have your own believes about freedom, but I do think countries are entitled to how they handle their internal affairs. So if a website is showing child porn, which can happen on 4chan, then the UK is free to block the website in the UK, and yes I know you can get around it. I don't agree with trying to fine 4chan or any other website for not complying with UK law, that's crap because it's effectively trying to impose UK law on the whole world
 
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Yes yes you may have your own believes about freedom, but I do think countries are entitled to how they handle their internal affairs. So if a website is showing child porn, which can happen on 4chan, then the UK is free to block the website in the UK, and yes I know you can get around it. I don't agree with trying to fine 4chan or any other website for not complying with UK law, that's crap because it's effectively trying to impose UK law on the whole world
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Better block the entire internet then because that's possible everywhere, including government websites.
 
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throwaway4372 said:
Hadn't looked at 4chan in years, but it took me 30 seconds to realise it's full of porn and doesn't verify age, so they won't just get away with it.
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I think the point is it's an American company in America.

Then again States are rolling out their own versions. Texas has one and it sounds like in Mississippi they have it for social media
uk.pcmag.com

Supreme Court Lets Mississippi Age-Verification Law Go Into Effect (For Now)

Mississippi law requires age verification for all social media sites, not just adult ones. Justice Brett Kavanaugh finds that it's 'likely unconstitutional,' but doesn't think it should be blocked on appeal.
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So who knows, it may be enforced in the end.

Funny how so many countries are doing the same thing at the same time, it's almost as if somebody was behind the coordinated effort.

Oh and the EU want to monitor all chat. Using AI. I'm sure that will go well.

Except Government officials and some other groups of course. I mean we can't expect them to be affected...
 
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Doesn't look that way to me. As a website it is in every country. Needs to abide by local laws or expect to be blocked at least. Reminds me of torrent sites, not from here but break the law so get blocked.
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Oh it's certainly going to be interesting to see how it plays out. Local internet versus world internet.
 
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Doesn't look that way to me. As a website it is in every country. Needs to abide by local laws or expect to be blocked at least. Reminds me of torrent sites, not from here but break the law so get blocked.
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How did that Torrent site block work out in the end though?
I remember there being a bazillion piratebay mirrors.
 
throwaway4372 said:
Doesn't look that way to me. As a website it is in every country. Needs to abide by local laws or expect to be blocked at least. Reminds me of torrent sites, not from here but break the law so get blocked.
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It's American and you're accessing an American server by viewing it. It doesn't need to abide by UK laws in the same way we can talk about the Tiananmen Square massacre on this UK website, despite it being illegal in China.

If the UK wants to block it, that's an option, not one I support, but they can try, Wikipedia too by the sound of it. It just highlights how desperate the Government is.
 
Would be a sad day if Wikipedia was blocked in the UK.
I'm sure they would be smart enough not to that, right? It would look fairly terrible if it did happen.

When I first got here it was accessible, but blocked a couple of years afterwards. That was not really surprising though.
 
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