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***Official Intel Haswell Thread***

Razor Time said:
All I want to know is how much faster clock for clock Haswell will be compared to ivybridge. Power consumption is for tree huggers. :D
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All I want to know is how much more efficient clock for clock Haswell will be compared to ivybridge. Electric-head performance is for lumberjacks....

:p
 
power consuption is important imo,stock clocked or overclocked,a cpu that uses less juice/voltages can only be a benefit,esp temp wise
 
BigBANGtheory said:
I can't help but wonder what the basic CPU processing performance levels will be like, Intel seem to talk about anything but this in relation to Haswell.
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Probably because the increase is negligible :(

I really hope im wrong because im planning a haswell build next summer
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
GT2 will have a GPU twice as fast as the HD4000 IGP with upto 128MB of cache and GT3 will be around 30% faster than the GT2:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6277/haswell-up-to-128mb-onpackage-cache-ulv-gpu-performance-estimates

IPC is going to increase by around 10% it seems.
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
They are competing with ARM regarding lower power consumption cores and AMD regarding the faster IGPs.
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Yeah it seems that way.

If we look at the summary slide posted in anadtech in post 10, we see that haswell igpu performance is given the most importance with cpu performance coming at the bottom section.

The last point about cpu power is:

Continued push for 'exciting performance'
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Now Intel could have used the descriptive words like substantial performance or large increase in cpu performance. But they went with exciting performance. Now imo exciting doesn't connote very strong impression but rather it is a vague term which could mean anything from say 5% to may be 15% increase in clock for clock performance over ivybridge.
 
Kaapstad said:
I think intel are jerking us about

Whatever happened to moores law

I hardly think 10% SB to IB to Haswell really stacks up

Intel really need competition to make them innovate.
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Moore's law dictates that transistors double every two year, not performance.

Sadly those extra transistors are going to the GPU side of things instead...

But because of this, it's going to start competing with low/mid end GPUs :p. I would imagine AMD will still have the GPU lead with the inbuilt GPU though.
 
Moore's law dictates that transistors double every two year, not performance.
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It will be interesting to see where those extra transistors go with their IB-E parts and further down the road the equivelent Haswell-E parts :D
 
There is no need to make any performance predictions at all, as Anandtech already mentioned what to expect:

"On the CPU side you can expect a ~10% increase in performance on average over Ivy Bridge. As always we'll see a range of performance gains, some benchmarks will show less and others will show more."
 
WingZero30 said:
Not for those on first gen i5/i7, sandy/ivy any.

However for those on core 2 or phenom, then Haswell will be a very nice upgrade.
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It would be amazing if I could stay with my i7 920, through yet another generation of CPU, and not suffer for it. That would make my 920 the best value for money bit of computer hardware I've every purchased. But the upgrade itch is getting pretty strong now, by the time Haswell arrives I'll probably need to be sedated.
 
Wucked said:
It would be amazing if I could stay with my i7 920, through yet another generation of CPU, and not suffer for it. That would make my 920 the best value for money bit of computer hardware I've every purchased. But the upgrade itch is getting pretty strong now, by the time Haswell arrives I'll probably need to be sedated.
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I still use my i7 9xx PC and for most things there is no difference compared to my SB-E 3960X.

I will still be using the i7 9xx long after haswell has been and gone.
 
the abit ip35-e I got back in 2007 that held my 2180 and currently my q9550 may finally get a retirement. done bloody well overclocked for best part of 5 years :-D
 
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