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***Official Intel Haswell Thread***

the abit ip35-e I got back in 2007 that held my 2180 and currently my q9550 may finally get a retirement. done bloody well overclocked for best part of 5 years :-D
 
What are the stock clock speed for haswell ? not worth to upgrade from sandybridge to haswell because it say it will not support 1155 socket motherboard, so no thanks Intel. I stick with my current sandybridge. Haswell will go to new motherboard socket 1150.
 
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Some good points here and again I feel we are expecting too much. It kind of feels like tablets/laptops will see a greater benefit than us desktop users. A predicted 10%~ increase on IVY isn't so bad and I don't give 2 hoots about the IGPU...
 
Some good points here and again I feel we are expecting too much. It kind of feels like tablets/laptops will see a greater benefit than us desktop users. A predicted 10%~ increase on IVY isn't so bad and I don't give 2 hoots about the IGPU...

+1

The way things are going with intel the normal desktop parts are going to end up with a much higher transister count (because of things like improved integrated graphics) than their extreme edition counter parts. I would also expect intel to carry charging inflated prices for their extreme edition parts even if they could be easier to make than the normal desktop parts.
 
Moore's law dictates that transistors double every two year, not performance.

Yes but there's also a line showing performance has been doubling since we've been using hand cranks in ancient times to what we have now (wasn't there a recent discovery of an automated sundial from ancient greece classed as first ever computer?). We may stall in a few years but then a new system 'post silicon computing' will catch back up, 30 times faster in 30 years? Probably. Hence computing power doubles every 2 years or whatever will still be in effect.

 
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Yes but there's also a line showing performance has been doubling since we've been using hand cranks in ancient times to what we have now (wasn't there a recent discovery of an automated sundial from ancient greece classed as first ever computer?). We may stall in a few years but then a new system 'post silicon computing' will catch back up, 30 times faster in 30 years? Probably. Hence computing power doubles every 2 years or whatever will still be in effect.


Indeed it's usually the case that when one trend tails off, another takes its place. A similar thing is happening with mechnical hard drives and SSDs.
 
I still use my i7 9xx PC and for most things there is no difference compared to my SB-E 3960X.

I will still be using the i7 9xx long after haswell has been and gone.

Me too. Top end processing, and core scaling seems to have stood still with Ivy/sandy-e vs previous generations. The lack of a dual socket overclockable solution has really stagnated the market. Sr-2's are still about the best you can get, when overclocked, without moving to 4 socket AMD solutions.

I really hope AMD come up with something good with piledriver.
 
Whats the eta on Haswell?

I heard one rumour that it had slipped to 3rd quarter next year, but another one said that all is well and to expect an end of 1st quarter/start of 2nd quarter release; personally my money is on April.
 
It would be amazing if I could stay with my i7 920, through yet another generation of CPU, and not suffer for it. That would make my 920 the best value for money bit of computer hardware I've every purchased. But the upgrade itch is getting pretty strong now, by the time Haswell arrives I'll probably need to be sedated.

I had a 920 but it needed way too much voltage and ran too hot at 4 Ghz :(

I swapped it to a 980 instead of getting SB, and now I has 6 cores sat at 4.38 Ghz and they are nice and cool. Probably gonna last me till 2025 lol.
 
I heard one rumour that it had slipped to 3rd quarter next year, but another one said that all is well and to expect an end of 1st quarter/start of 2nd quarter release; personally my money is on April.

In the last Intel Road map its third quarter now along with IB-E.
 
Looking forward to hearing some more about these, as long as it's some kind of performance step from the Bridges I'll be happy enough. I can't believe first gen i7 is almost 4 years old now. Not that long ago a 4 year old PC would normally be considered slow but the old i7 920s are still more than enough performance for most people.

my god really? i7 is 4 years old?! It feels like only yesterday! :O
 
I had a 920 but it needed way too much voltage and ran too hot at 4 Ghz :(

I swapped it to a 980 instead of getting SB, and now I has 6 cores sat at 4.38 Ghz and they are nice and cool. Probably gonna last me till 2025 lol.

+1

My 980 is also a good overclocker I had it running at nearly 4.6ghz the other day the only thing holding it back is the rubbish cooler I use on it.
 
This is the highest my CPU and ram does:

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Temps in the 70s under a big phanteks thing. Wouldnt remain stable at 4400 Mhz CPU + lower ram speed so I left it sat at that.

All the newer platforms are just like 10% faster at the most, probably even less clock for clock. And my ram is uber. Likely wont need anything better for a very long time.

If you're lucky enough and got an I7 920 that runs at 4.2 Ghz at <1.35v, keep it. Mine was horrid, needed 1.35v for 4 Ghz, 1.4v for 4.2 and cooked my room up while only needing 1.25v for 3.8 Ghz. (The 980 runs a lot cooler at the same clocks and volts with its 32 nm).
 
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Let's hope they don't use internal heatsinks n cheap as chips thermal paste

Hallelujah!

Who gives two shinny stools about power use.

I wanna know does it cold bug!!!

:) I've a vapochill unit sat around, and this seems to be the perfect reason to fire it up.... Can;t use it on my i7950 as that kicks out 250 watts when seriously overclocked. A lower power version of the ivybridge models currently out there sure looks perfick....
 
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